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re: Please help me understand moving the embassy to Jerusalem

Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Anyone?
I haven’t put any thought into it. I know it won’t have any harmful effects. It’s not like people are going to fight wars or not fight wars based off of where we put a building. Who gives a frick where the embassy is?
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:01 pm to
Because our govt is full of Israel First neocon shills
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:02 pm to
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America is effectively saying that Palestine has no right to have their country.

Can you point me to a map that has ever had the country of Palestine?
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:02 pm to
Where do you live? I'm going to come to your house, bulldoze it down, and build my Christian utopia on your formal property. If you try to defend your property, I'll kill you.

Still don't understand why anybody has a problem with Israel?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:02 pm to
I’m not arguing he doesn’t have the power to move it. I’m curious as to why now and what are the possible benefits versus the posssible drawbacks.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36695 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:03 pm to
Embassies are in capitals, consulates in non-capitals.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:04 pm to
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I haven’t put any thought into it. I know it won’t have any harmful effects. It’s not like people are going to fight wars or not fight wars based off of where we put a building. Who gives a frick where the embassy is?


State is already restricting travel of diplomats in the region due to expected violence. I get the heckler’s veto is not something to obey, but I just don’t see the tangible upside to the move while we do have some certainty of what the downside will be.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:13 pm
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Where do you live? I'm going to come to your house, bulldoze it down, and build my Christian utopia on your formal property. If you try to defend your property, I'll kill you. Still don't understand why anybody has a problem with Israel?

Because land hasn’t swapped hands throughout mankind after wars were fought?

How much land would Israel have if they would’ve kept what they won in engagements in the last 70 years
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Israel is our only ally in the region. I have never understood all the anti-israel mentalities.



you use the word ally.. not the word i'd use
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:05 pm to
Take that shirt to another thread.

I really want to hear the argument for the move
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146950 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:05 pm to
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I’m just trying to be a shitty contrarian troll and experience the tangible benefits it will bring to me, boosie. because i like to troll.

Anyone want to fall for my baited contrarian thread; and if you dare disagree with me I will condescend and say bless you child like Father Comey?
FIFY.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 6:01 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:07 pm to
So again, no substance? Just continuing your weird stalking of me?

I get fussed at for trolling and accused of being a troll when I start a legitimate thread.

It’s almost like I can’t win with you regardless

ETA: first time I can remember RA’ing in a long, long time. Congrats
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 11:09 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:07 pm to
It gives Israel more leverage against the USA
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:07 pm to
All I’ve done is respond to comments. Take it up with those
Posted by shreveport_gator
Sebring, FL
Member since Sep 2012
115 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:09 pm to
Actually the Jews had a nation there first unless you want to count all the different tribes mentioned in the Bible. Those were not Arabs though. The UN (not exactly a shrill for Israel) helped re-establish Israel as a nation on land that it had before any Arabs had claim to it. So your illustration is false.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:11 pm to
It's safe in Tel Aviv. Others are there also. If you move it to Jerusalem, it will be subject to bombings, terrorists actions, and all out war in the future. It will be a target of the Arabs and ISIS. The Bible says that area will have a Mosk built by the Anti-Christ right before Jesus returns for the final war. If you believe in the Bible, it's all in Revelations.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:12 pm to
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whike wenknow with some certainty what the downside will be.
So the downside is the status quo? Whatever.

The simple fact of the matter if that the two-state solution isn’t working. It will never work. We’ve been pushing the same policy towards Israel and the Palestinians for as long as I can remember. I don’t necessarily support moving it. I really just don’t care either way. It’s a stupid thing to get worked up over imo.


Also State can suck my balls. I really don’t put much stock into anything that department has to say.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20898 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:14 pm to
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Israel is our only ally in the region.


Jordan, Saudis, UAE...
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:14 pm to
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and all out war in the future.


The Middle East is already embroiled in a war and it will more than likely become a pretty major one soon and it will have exactly zero to do with where our embassy is.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37361 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 11:19 pm to
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By doing this, America is effectively saying that Palestine has no right to have their country. I hope all the neocohens in this thread are going to be signing up for the inevitable war.


Whoever tried to declare war over moving an embassy should be quickly wiped off the map, as they have no place in this world
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