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re: Pizzagate makes it to mainstream media

Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:40 pm to
I don't want Pizzagate to be real, because then actual victims would be involved, and lots of them...but if it IS real, and Trump is the guy who puts the wheels in motion to bring it all down, I'll never say a goddamn negative thing about him again. Regardless of party, you'd have to be a dope not to say it'd be one of the most epic achievements in humanity IMO...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:58 pm to
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That is so sick.


It is hard to fathom how anyone could tortue another human or animal for that matter...

Below is my attempt to intellectualize the process (gathered from my trips down many rabbit holes...)

Podesta emails reference "walnut sauce"



The human adrenal glands are typically described as walnut shaped/sized glands...






The adrenal glands are vital in the stress response and produce catecholamines (adrenaline, think fight or flight)

The torture serves 2 main functions:

1. increased adrenaline production to increase the yield of adrenochrome (walnut sauce)

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Whether human or animal, the blood sacrifice has long been a part of the rituals of many a civilization, past and present, here on Earth. From the Mayans to the Egyptians, the Jews to the Muslims, the Aztecs to the Chinese, the Zulu to the Greeks, virtually ALL civilizations have taken part in this ritual. But why? WHY do human beings feel that they can BENEFIT from the taking of another living creature’s life?


Some blood sacrifices are supposedly performed to gain favor in the eyes of some deity, thus “ensuring” a good harvest, good luck in the coming year or some other bullshite like that. Some are done as punishment to those who have committed “evil” deeds, thus “restoring” the balance of good & evil in the universe. But I have discovered ANOTHER reason for the blood sacrifice: the extraction and collection of ADRENOCHROME.

What exactly IS adrenochrome? In scientific terms, it is a chemical that is produced in the human body when adrenaline (epinephrine) oxidizes. How is the chemical extracted? A potential victim is terrorized, thus increasing the amount of adrenaline that is flowing through their body. They are then killed and the adrenochrome is collected with a needle and syringe from the base of the back of their neck and spinal column. Once collected, the chemical can be sold on the black market at exorbitant prices.


What makes adrenochrome so valuable? It has psychoactive properties and can be used as a mind control drug. It can also be consumed to give someone an “adrenaline high.”


from wiki:

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Effect on the brain[edit]
Several small-scale studies (involving 15 or fewer test subjects) conducted in the 1950s and 1960s reported that adrenochrome triggered psychotic reactions such as thought disorder, derealization, and euphoria.[2] Researchers Abram Hoffer and Humphry Osmond claimed that adrenochrome is a neurotoxic, psychotomimetic substance and may play a role in schizophrenia and other mental illnesses.[3] In what they called the "adrenochrome hypothesis",[4] they speculated that megadoses of vitamin C and niacin could cure schizophrenia by reducing brain adrenochrome.[5][6] However, these hypotheses have never been scientifically accepted; adrenochrome is not currently believed to have any psychedelic properties.[7]

Law[edit]
Adrenochrome is unscheduled by the Controlled Substances Act in the United States, but if sold as a supplement, sales must conform to U.S. supplement laws. If sold for consumption as a food or drug, sales are regulated by the FDA.[8][unreliable source?]

In popular culture[edit]
Adrenochrome is mentioned in The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley as "a product of the decomposition of adrenaline" that can "produce many of the symptoms observed in mescaline intoxication."
Author Hunter S. Thompson mentions adrenochrome in his book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The adrenochrome scene also appears in the novel's film adaptation. In the DVD commentary, director Terry Gilliam admits that his and Thompson's portrayal is a fictional exaggeration. In fact, Gilliam insists that the drug is entirely fictional and seems unaware of the existence of a substance with even a similar name. Thompson also mentions the substance in his book Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72.
The harvesting of an adrenal gland from a live victim to obtain Adrenochrome for drug abuse is a plot feature in the 2nd episode "Whom the Gods would Destroy" of Series 1 of the British TV series Lewis (2008).[9]
"Drencrom" is one of several substances mentioned in the beginning of A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess.


2. Induce a dissociative state that is conducive for mind control (MK-Ultra).
Art /pics on the instagram of CPP referenced dissociative states.



There are worse/suggestive images (that I will NOT post) if you care to search/look

LINK

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Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control




Dr Mengle (Nazi) AKA "Angel of Death"


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Monarch programmers cause intense trauma to subjects through the use of electroshock, torture, abuse and mind games in order to force them to dissociate from reality – a natural response in some people when then are faced with unbearable pain. The subject’s ability to dissociate is a major requirement and it is ,apparently, most readily found in children that come from families with multiple generations of abuse. Mental dissociation enables the handlers to create walled-off personas in the subject’s psyche, which can then be programmed and triggered at will.


“Trauma-based mind control programming can be defined as systematic torture that blocks the victim’s capacity for conscious processing (through pain, terror, drugs, illusion, sensory deprivation, sensory over-stimulation, oxygen deprivation, cold, heat, spinning, brain stimulation, and often, near-death), and then employs suggestion and/or classical and operant conditioning (consistent with well-established behavioral modification principles) to implant thoughts, directives, and perceptions in the unconscious mind, often in newly-formed trauma-induced dissociated identities, that force the victim to do, feel, think, or perceive things for the purposes of the programmer. The objective is for the victim to follow directives with no conscious awareness, including execution of acts in clear violation of the victim’s moral principles, spiritual convictions, and volition.

Installation of mind control programming relies on the victim’s capacity to dissociate, which permits the creation of new walled-off personalities to “hold” and “hide” programming. Already dissociative children are prime “candidates” for programming”. [5. Ellen P. Lacter, Ph.D., The Relationship Between Mind Control Programming and Ritual Abuse]




Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:17 pm to
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I don't want Pizzagate to be real, because then actual victims would be involved, and lots of them...but if it IS real, and Trump is the guy who puts the wheels in motion to bring it all down, I'll never say a goddamn negative thing about him again. Regardless of party, you'd have to be a dope not to say it'd be one of the most epic achievements in humanity IMO...


I would give him credit if he addressed this and it's true. I'll give him credit for anything good he does. I loathe the man and I don't make that a secret but should this be a thing, I hope they're all hung by their collective genitals'. It just comes off as people becoming politicians for the benefits of kiddie diddling and doesn't make sense to me. Please, please, please I hope this isn't true because it is gross beyond anything I can think of...
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:38 pm to
There's alot about it that doesn't make sense to me either...but the story seems to be gaining legs, and some folks have put their reputations on the line by swearing it's true. Truly fricked up if it is...
Posted by Canard Noir
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:14 pm to
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Below is my attempt to intellectualize the process (gathered from my trips down many rabbit holes...)


I'm sorry but you went too far down those rabbit holes. You might be right but to subject yourself to this kind of research such that you can pull it up at the drop of a hat.. Well... I don't know...

Despite my disgust for Hillary, I stand by not wanting something like this to be true.
Posted by Boudin
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:19 pm to
How are you keeping up with everything lately? Reddit? I've been busy recently and haven't had the time to follow

ETA: also, how is that podcast? I'm going to check it out, subscribed a minute ago
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 9:30 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:42 pm to
Voat.co and reddit. George Webb YouTube

Podcast is a good summary (from one of the voat.co posters/mods)

I have posted info about most of the topics they talk about except the defense contractors i.e DyingCorpse... (Webb goes into this extensively)

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:44 pm to
Many of you have completely gone off the deep end in this thread.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 9:45 pm to
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I'm sorry but you went too far down those rabbit holes. You might be right but to subject yourself to this kind of research such that you can pull it up at the drop of a hat.. Well... I don't know...


Nah. I had linked some of the info before in separate posts. I read a bunch of esoteric stuff and have a good memory/search engine.

My prior post dovetails into Spirit Cooking, Aleister Crowley's literature on Thelema/Theosophistic beliefs, and Lucis Trust.

Lucis Trust

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The Lucis Trust has Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations (ECOSOC) and World Goodwill is recognized by the Department of Public Information at the United Nations as a Non-Governmental Organisation (NGO). As such the Trust and World Goodwill are part of a community of many hundreds of NGOs that play an active role in the United Nations, particularly in spreading information about the UN and fostering support for UN programs. Since their inception Lucis Trust and World Goodwill have given their support through meditation, educational materials and seminars, by highlighting the importance of the UN's goals and activities as they represent the voice of the peoples and nations of the world.


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The Lucis Trust's publishing company was founded in the early 1920s as the Lucifer Publishing Company.[1] The Lucis Trust says that the name was probably chosen to honor Lucifer.[1] The name was changed in 1925 to the Lucis Publishing Company. In Latin lucem ferre means "to bear light" and lucis means of light. The company has headquarters in New York City, London, and Geneva. The Trust is established in Great Britain under the title "Lucis Trust Ltd.", in Switzerland as "Lucis Trust Association", and in the Netherlands as the "Lucis Trust Stichting".

In order to place a closer focus on the work of the UN, the Lucis Trust has set up a new blog, World Goodwill at the UN, which will focus on defining new Sustainable Development Goals for humanity after 2015 when the Millennium Development Goals expire.[2]


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WHAT IS THE LUCIS TRUST? Lucis Trust is a non-profit organization with offices in New York, London and Geneva. It promotes recognition and practice of the spiritual principles and values upon which a stable and interdependent world society may be based. The esoteric philosophy of its founder, Alice Bailey, informs its activities which are offered freely throughout the world in eight languages. More

WHO WAS ALICE BAILEY? Alice Bailey (1880 – 1949) was a writer and lecturer who founded the Lucis Trust and was responsible for a ground breaking series of books on the ageless wisdom. More

WHAT IS THE ARCANE SCHOOL? The Arcane School was created by Alice A. Bailey in 1923 as a training school for adult men and women in meditation techniques and the development of spiritual potentiality. The School provides sequential courses of study and meditation, and practical training in group service. The Arcane School is conducted by correspondence in eight languages through headquarters in New York, London, and Geneva. More

WHY ARE MEDITATIONS ORGANIZED AT THE FULL MOON? Energies of Light and Love and Spiritual purpose are always available to those who can contact them in meditation. Yet, as in every aspect of the planetary life, there are cycles in the flow of these energies. Meditators working individually or in groups can cooperate with these cycles, making their approach to the higher worlds at the most auspicious times. More

HOW IS THE LUCIS TRUST FUNDED? The Trust is funded entirely by donations, freely given. All publications and activities of the Lucis Trust are offered without charge. Publications of the Lucis Publishing Companies are sold at prices which are subsidized by the Lucis Trust. More

CAN I JOIN THE LUCIS TRUST? The Lucis Trust is not a membership organization. You can apply to become a student of the Arcane School, a distance-learning, correspondence School; you can register Triangles of light and goodwill (link with two other people to use the Great Invocation every day); you can form an independent Unit of Service for local activities (including full moon meditation groups for world service) in support of the vision and work of the Lucis Trust; you can attend events regularly held at the three international headquarters or listen to live audio and video recordings; and you can sign up to receive newsletters and publications by email or regular mail.



By studying the stuff, I invoke a "know your enemy" philosophy.

Let's just say that in real life I am well trained to look at tough/horrible shite objectively...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Many of you have completely gone off the deep end in this thread.


You may be right. By acknowledging that fact, it reveals insight (and argues against insanity).

You, however, appear to place zero confidence in any of this being valid (yet you offer no specifics refutations). Complete denial with later confirmation could lead someone to insanity/ tremendous depression...

Should Kansas go bye-bye, I will be in a much better place psychologically to deal with things than most.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:03 pm to
I think Podesta is a creepy motherfricker and wouldn't be surprised if some of these people were involved with pedophilia, it is a fairly natural evolution of fetishes for people in power.

This particular email though about walnut sauce and pasta, why is it considered sinister?

Podesta is known to be a "chef" and a quick google search shows that walnut sauce and pasta is a very common dish. Eh, a quick urban dictionary search of walnut sauce is disturbing af.

I think I'll show myself the door.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:08 pm to
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By studying the stuff, I invoke a "know your enemy" philosophy.

Let's just say that in real life I am well trained to look at tough/horrible shite objectively...




Look, I get that part of "The Art of War," and stuff but it's just so grotesque that trying to be Sun Tzu just isn't necessary.

Let's please just agree to disagree on this one. I'll just concede here, you've clearly looked enough for all of us...
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:22 am to
the dentist chair part always made me extra sick

LINK

Rumor Claims Sandusky “Pimped Out” Boys to Rich Donors
LINK
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 7:36 am to
They nabbed Sandusky Jr yesterday and the claim is that he's a child wrangler...

fricking disgusting
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 8:54 am to
The background surrounding the investigation of Sandusky was/is interesting...

The DA...

CNN

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What happened to Ray Gricar?
By Sara Ganim, CNN
Updated 10:09 AM ET, Wed April 15, 2015


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Ten years ago, a prosecutor in Centre County, Pennsylvania, took a day off work and vanished.

Since then, the case of Ray Gricar has become one of the most intriguing and talked about missing persons stories in the country.



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But no one has been able to find the veteran district attorney, who was 59 when he disappeared.
When he went missing that Friday morning on April 15, 2005, he left behind a live-in girlfriend, a beautiful and successful daughter and a bank account that was supposed to fund a fast-approaching retirement.

"When a district attorney goes missing, you know, it's pretty big. It's going to catch people's attention. A lot of people don't have a large footprint. This guy had influential friends, he was well known," said Todd Matthews, director of communications and case management for the National Missing and Unidentified Person System, or NamUs.


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The prevailing theories have been suicide or walk-away, especially since 2009, when a search of his Google history on his home computer found that someone had been searching "how to fry a hard drive" and "water damage to a notebook computer."


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In 2011, when former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was arrested and charged with sexually abusing boys, it was revealed that it was Gricar who decided not to charge Sandusky when the first victim came forward in 1998. Gricar cited a lack of evidence.
The intrigue already simmering in Gricar's case exploded. Sleuths desperately tried to find a link between the two cases, but investigators said there was no evidence that Gricar's disappearance had anything to do with Sandusky's crimes.
But some have stuck to the homicide theory, suggesting that Gricar was an enemy of mob-like gangs in central Pennsylvania who were upset at his drug and corruption prosecutions.
Cyril Wecht, a forensic pathologist, said he considered writing a book about Gricar, his ties to the Sandusky case, and whether it led to suicide. But, Wecht said, he abandoned the book idea when it became clear there was not enough evidence.
"I don't think it's a great stretch," Wecht said. "He was one of those guys with a very strong sense of justice and professional discipline and in light of what evolved and came to be disclosed -- I speak as a forensic pathologist who's done so many suicides over the years and what can bring someone to that point. It's pure conjecture, not based on any factual knowledge."
Plus, Wecht said, if it was a suicide, "I don't understand how they never recovered the body."



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local PA article

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State may investigate whether Second Mile knew of Sandusky's abuses
BRAD BUMSTED | Monday, May 16, 2016, 6:42 p.m.



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HARRISBURG — The Pennsylvania Attorney General's office is taking a second look at the Second Mile.

Solicitor General Bruce Castor told the Tribune-Review he has asked a head investigator to compile a memo on “what an investigation into the Second Mile would look like,” referring to the nonprofit founded in 1977 by former assistant Penn State University football coach Jerry Sandusky, who was convicted of 45 counts of child abuse in 2012.


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Critics of Corbett have long questioned why officials of the Second Mile were not investigated. They pointed to his approval of a $3 million grant for the foundation in 2011 after accepting thousands of dollars in campaign donations from people with ties to the foundation.

Corbett's office had denied any connection between the contributions and the decision not to pursue prosecution.

Former state agents and prosecutors familiar with the case said there was an extensive investigation of the board.

Federal investigators conducted an investigation.

“We have no comment,” said Dawn Mayko, spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in the Middle District of Pennsylvania, based in Harrisburg.

Corbett approved a grant for the Second Mile's new building initially approved by his predecessor, Democrat Ed Rendell.

Corbett said at the time he could not reject the grant without “compromising the investigation.”



Posted by F16HT1N6 T163R5
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:31 am to
You are all over this.

Thank you for those of us interested in this topic who are unable to investigate for ourselves.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:41 am to
Probably mentioned but Joe Rogan did a podcast with Alex Jones and they went pretty well into this.

Jones is a fricking loon to watch when he gets going. But when Joe could calm him down it was interesting. Very fricked up emails about chestnuts and walnuts or whatever were used in describing "brown" kids at planned pool parties?
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:47 am to
Flynn & Son investigations can use their newfound free time to get to the bottom of this "mystery"
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77667 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:56 am to
That post is how kooks like you turn realistic issues like a child sex trafficking ring into wacko foolishness that most people will tune out.

It's as if you're doing it on purpose in order for the issue to be labelled wacko and ignored by the mainstream. Your theories turn the plausible into implausible.

And Food Network must be in on it too...
LINK
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:00 am to
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Flynn & Son investigations can use their newfound free time to get to the bottom of this "mystery


The HRC slight via tweet OVER THIS VERY TOPIC is telling, it only adds the spotlight.

If she's trying to emulate Trump, she's doing it wrong.
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