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re: Pigs fly? CNN "No Iran is not winning".... lol.

Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by B747Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:17 pm to
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Lol I flew them


What did you fly?

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So how many say Vipers do u think we need for a thousand miles of coast? What munitions should they carry?


I wouldn’t chose Vipers because they have they don’t really have much on station time. The idea is to interdict launch sites once they’re identified. Loitering bombers or strike eagles probably provide the best option. But you’re the fighter pilot, why don’t you tell me? Or do you just want to play 20 questions so you can avoid actually saying anything?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:19 pm to
So you ever wonder how effective A-10s etc were on Scud hunts?

So now I am chasing a Toyota with a mudchen.

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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:20 pm to
What did you fly

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So you ever wonder how effective A-10s etc were on Scud hunts? So now I am chasing a Toyota with a mudchen.


ISR has come quite a long way since then. We won’t get them all obviously. It’ll take time to whittle them down.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:23 pm to
Saying what?

Your plan is ineffective and exposes too many assets for little to no return.

I need to deploy thousands of troops more Naval assets and more Air Force assets to include tankers just to loiter and expose people to hold islands that really aren't worth the effort.

I need to mose point defense assets away from air bases etc and drop them into some islands

Additionally I need to have at least 20-40 tankers used in a 24 hour cycle everyday

Then probably 80-120 fighter/bombers sorties to possibly taking out a Toyota.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:24 pm to
Whittle down Toyotas?

How many are they launching every 24 hours?

Weren't you the carpet bomb every small unit guy?
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Your plan is ineffective and exposes too many assets for little to no return. I need to deploy thousands of troops more Naval assets and more Air Force assets to include tankers just to loiter and expose people to hold islands that really aren't worth the effort. I need to mose point defense assets away from air bases etc and drop them into some islands Additionally I need to have at least 20-40 tankers used in a 24 hour cycle everyday Then probably 80-120 fighter/bombers sorties to possibly taking out a Toyota.


1) Those assets exist for the sole purpose of fighting wars. We’re in a war with Iran.

2)Why do you keep saying “I” are you still in? Are you a General? Why won’t you answer what type of plane you flew for the Air Force

3)I don’t really give a shite how many Hiluxes “you” kill. The whole point is to protect the strait. Right now we’re not doing it. The oil isn’t flowing and the ME allies are going to get fed up and make their own deal with Iran sooner or later. Their entire relationship with us has always depended on us keeping the oil flowing. Right now we’re not doing that.
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:30 pm to
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Weren't you the carpet bomb every small unit guy?


What? No
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:32 pm to
I flew multiple aircraft and my name is my call sign.

Why does what airframe matter?

Again ineffective use of forces is ineffective regardless of the comment that's what they are for.

Absolute waste of assets and manpower.

I need to look I think you were the carpet bomb every village guy
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:33 pm to
Meh there's another military expert on here in the passed suggesting we bomb every little village to root out IRGC that are dispersed in small numbers.
Posted by B747Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:35 pm to
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Why does what airframe matter?
I like airplanes. I’m curious.

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Again ineffective use of forces is ineffective regardless of the comment that's what they are for. Absolute waste of assets and manpower.
I wholeheartedly disagree.

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need to look I think you were the carpet bomb every village guy


I guarantee you I’m not that guy. In fact, I would’ve called such a comment stupid.
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:36 pm to
Guy was a loon

Posted by MKP2004
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:36 pm to
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Have you ever served in a forward position son? If not I suggest you stand post and defend something. Either way, I do not give a damn what YOU think should be done

Posted by B747Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:42 pm to
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Again, there is no need. They have and are sending ships through as we speak.


They are sending small shuttles to carry oil to the tankers out in the Arabian Sea. No tankers are actually passing through. If we controlled the strait then it would be business as usual. But we don’t, so it’s not.

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Have you ever served in a forward position son? If not I suggest you stand post and defend something. Either way, I do not give a damn what YOU think should be done. Apparently our military agrees with me.


It’s such a bitch as response when people say this shite. But since everyone here fricking asks whenever someone has an opinion on the war, yes, I have in fact.
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:53 pm to
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Hormuz Recovery: As security measures improve, normal tanker traffic and loadings through the Strait of Hormuz are also slowly rebounding. [1, 2, 3]


It's getting better while Iran atrophies.
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:54 pm to
The bitch response I believe was humor.
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:54 pm to
Is there a link?
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:54 pm to
Google how are the gulf states moving oil out of the Persian Gulf

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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:58 pm to
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Saudi Petroline: Saudi Arabia uses its 1,200-kilometer East-West pipeline. It pumps crude oil from Abqaiq on the Persian Gulf directly to Yanbu on the Red Sea, carrying up to 5 million barrels every day. [1]

Egyptian Link: Saudi Arabia also moves oil up the Red Sea to a pipeline in Egypt. This line carries the oil to the Mediterranean Sea port of Sidi Kerir to reach European and global markets. [1, 2]

UAE Eastern Coast Pipelines: The United Arab Emirates pumps oil through domestic pipelines straight to Fujairah, a port located outside the Persian Gulf on the Gulf of Oman. [1]




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Mediterranean Rerouting: Saudi Arabia has loaded additional oil onto tankers destined for Sidi Kerir, an Egyptian port on the Mediterranean coast connected by a regional pipeline network, allowing shipments to continue toward Western markets via alternative maritime paths.
This post was edited on 8/30/26 at 9:59 pm
Posted by B747Tiger
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:59 pm to
I asked Grok

Prompt: Are tankers transiting the strait of Hormuz

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Yes — some oil tankers are still going through, but volume is a small fraction of normal. As of Aug 30–31, 2026 (about day 183 of the disruption that began late February), the strait is not physically closed. Ships can and do transit. Visible AIS traffic, however, is typically about 5 vessels a day over the latest weekend and has been running in the single digits to low teens most days, versus a pre-crisis baseline of roughly 70–130 commercial ships per day. ? Oil tankers specifically • AIS-visible crude and product tankers are sparse: a handful per day at most, often Iranian-flagged, shadow-fleet, or small/medium rather than a steady stream of laden VLCCs. • Recent named examples in the last day or so include the VLCC Kiku (outbound), VLCC Myanmar Prosperity (inbound), Miraan, Savona, and Elmo, plus several Iranian tankers in the zone that are slow or stopped (Hasna, Romina, Joinville 1, etc.). ? • TankerMap’s latest complete day showed one tanker transit, with about 13 tankers currently in the broader zone. ? What the numbers miss A large share of remaining oil movement is AIS-off. Trackers and news reports note many crude-laden ships going dark, using the southern (Omani) corridor, or doing ship-to-ship transfers in the Gulf of Oman. Mainstream estimates of barrels actually moving are higher than raw AIS counts, but still far below the old ~20 million bpd through Hormuz. Saudi and UAE pipeline bypasses (East-West, ADCOP) are carrying part of the load. ? Iranian crude U.S. and commercial tracking sources say the reimposed blockade has kept Iranian crude tankers from breaking out in recent weeks; some LPG/product ships with dark-activity histories have still left. ? Risk War-risk insurance is extremely expensive, many major liner companies have stopped using the strait, and there was a U.S. strike on Iranian rocket launchers on Larak Island as of Aug 30. Traffic is selective, high-risk, and dominated by ships willing to run dark or under Iranian routing rules. Short version: tankers are passing, but it is a trickle, not the old highway.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 10:01 pm to
Cool
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