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Philadelphia’s Proterra Fleet of Electric Buses in Complete Shambles
Posted on 7/20/21 at 4:43 am
Posted on 7/20/21 at 4:43 am
Another cautionary tale about EVs. The political push behind EVs is forcing products upon the market before they are properly engineered. Meanwhile, the Feds cannot hand out our money fast enough to cover the photo ops to show how much they care.
Green energy is the new Communism; it has yet to be properly implemented.
The Washington Free Beacon
Green energy is the new Communism; it has yet to be properly implemented.
The Washington Free Beacon
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More than two dozen electric Proterra buses first unveiled by the city of Philadelphia in 2016 are already out of operation, according to a WHYY investigation.
The entire fleet of Proterra buses was removed from the roads by SEPTA, the city's transit authority, in February 2020 due to both structural and logistical problems—the weight of the powerful battery was cracking the vehicles' chassis, and the battery life was insufficient for the city's bus routes. The city raised the issues with Proterra, which failed to adequately address the city's concerns.
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Philadelphia placed the Proterra buses in areas where it thought they could succeed but quickly learned it was mistaken. Two pilot routes selected in South Philadelphia that were relatively short and flat compared with others in the city were too much for the electric buses.
"Even those routes needed buses to pull around 100 miles each day, while the Proterras were averaging just 30 to 50 miles per charge," WHYY reporter Ryan Briggs wrote. "Officials also quickly realized there wasn’t room at the ends of either route for charging stations."
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Similar problems have been found in other cities that partnered with Proterra. Duluth, Minn., which, like Philadelphia, waited three years for its Proterra buses to be delivered, ultimately pulled its seven buses from service "because their braking systems were struggling on Duluth’s hills, and a software problem was causing them to roll back when accelerating uphill from a standstill," according to the Duluth Monitor.
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:04 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:16 am to Perfect Circle
SHOCKED [NOT SHOCKED]
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:23 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:38 am to Perfect Circle
Racism.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:41 am to Perfect Circle
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and a software problem was causing them to roll back when accelerating uphill from a standstill
“Software problem.”
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:58 am to the808bass
This is an important preview of how Biden’s push to green energy will look. Throw money at a problem and people will take it with promises they can’t keep.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:09 am to Perfect Circle
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Philadelphia placed the Proterra buses in areas where it thought they could succeed but quickly learned it was mistaken. Two pilot routes selected in South Philadelphia that were relatively short and flat compared with others in the city were too much for the electric buses.
So, not only do they not work, they do not work on routes created specifically for them that they should have worked on...
This climate shite is the biggest boondoggle ever in the history of man... Who is going to hold Proterra responsible for a shitty product that doesn't perform?
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:10 am to Perfect Circle
Follow the money
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:34 am to The Maj
And now you have thousands of pounds of batteries to dispose of.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:40 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:44 am to Perfect Circle
To you and to anyone else who thinks this is some sort of “gotcha” or proof that the Leftist EV agenda is blowing up in the face of reality, you need to realize something - you are dead wrong.
The goal of the Leftists is not to replace ICE vehicles with alternate fuel source vehicles that give the same level of service. Best case scenario is that they don’t care but it’s more likely that they want to make travel more difficult. They want people out of their cars that give them independence to move freely and they’d rather piss off people who use public transportation bad enough to say “F it - I’m going to sit home and collect a check and keep voting for the folks who tell me I deserve more and the other guys want to take it away.”
Cities like L.A. do little or nothing to solve their traffic problems. They think that traffic is a bad thing and seek to punish those people who contribute to the problem, the drivers. Meanwhile, just one more perk of being in the political class will be access to reliable transportation.
The goal of the Leftists is not to replace ICE vehicles with alternate fuel source vehicles that give the same level of service. Best case scenario is that they don’t care but it’s more likely that they want to make travel more difficult. They want people out of their cars that give them independence to move freely and they’d rather piss off people who use public transportation bad enough to say “F it - I’m going to sit home and collect a check and keep voting for the folks who tell me I deserve more and the other guys want to take it away.”
Cities like L.A. do little or nothing to solve their traffic problems. They think that traffic is a bad thing and seek to punish those people who contribute to the problem, the drivers. Meanwhile, just one more perk of being in the political class will be access to reliable transportation.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:47 am to The Maj
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So, not only do they not work, they do not work on routes created specifically for them that they should have worked on...
If they won't work on fairly flat routes in Philly they have ZERO chance of working in Duluth.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:49 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:56 am to Bamafig
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And now you have thousands of pounds of batteries to dispose of.
Thank you.
One of my main concerns with the electric craze, is where are we going to put all of this highly-toxic, heavy metal laden, physical waste? I'll take some CO2 over that.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:41 am to Perfect Circle
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the Proterras were averaging just 30 to 50 miles per charge
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:31 pm to Perfect Circle
I guess Tesla has an opportunity to start building buses now too
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:45 pm to BobABooey
Well, somebody gets it. ??
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:57 pm to RolltidePA
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And now you have thousands of pounds of batteries to dispose of.
Thank you.
One of my main concerns with the electric craze, is where are we going to put all of this highly-toxic, heavy metal laden, physical waste? I'll take some CO2 over that.
The same people promoting EVs lose their shite over storing waste from nuclear power plants. Nearly 300 million vehicles are on US roads today - imagine if they were all EVs. Where are all of those batteries going? What if the average EV ends up going through two or three batteries during its service life? Those batteries can't just sit around in salvage yards, either. Hell, it's a pain in the arse to dispose of various, small, battery types today.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 1:04 pm to Perfect Circle
It was probably worse in the winter.
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