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re: Paulina Luna Names 4 Co-conspirators

Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:29 pm to
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You have basically pointed out fricking college aged women makes you a pedophile.



Link it or admit you're lying. I was pointing out that some of these victims were 14 years old. Which YOU defended.

And THIS thread is talking about the abuse of 10 and 11 year olds.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91400 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

This only came AFTER I continued to point out that some of them were much younger than 17 after you claimed they were all 17 year old runaways.
Yeah, you lowered the age of people we were talking about and I responded accordingly.

That’s how conversation works.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89671 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Yeah, you lowered the age of people we were talking about and I responded accordingly.

That’s how conversation works.


This is exactly what he did.


Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Yeah, you lowered the age of people we were talking about


It was only ever not a thing because you were insisting that the investigator who called them kids was lying and that they were actually 17 year old runaways. I pointed out that, no, kids were indeed being abused.

I'm glad to hear you say you think these old men abusing children is bad.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3346 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:34 pm to
Sounds like everyday of your fake arse life.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42114 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't matter. Everyone on The Left just wants to know all the names because they are 100% sure Trump is in the mix of the bad names.

They don't give a shite about what Democrats have done, because as you know, that's expected behaviour for The Left.

The Left has been told Trump is right there with Bill Clinton and they are having a hard time accepting they were lied to.


Great post!

The funny thing is congress forced the release. They nuked themselves thinking they got Trump. It's the ultimate TDS
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91400 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:36 pm to
I didn’t assert that they WEREN’T that young.

Just that a person, saying the word kids, doesn’t necessarily mean he’s talking about 10-14 year olds.

You’re using it as unquestionable proof. I don’t think you can do that based on the “kid” quote.

That’s all.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89671 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

It was only ever not a thing because you were insisting that the investigator who called them kids was lying and that they were actually 17 year old runaways. I pointed out that, no, kids were indeed being abused.

I'm glad to hear you say you think these old men abusing children is bad.




Unless you are a virgin, then you are a pedophile since you are calling abuse of fully developed women pedophilia.


Words have meaning, you don't get to just make shite up.





For example, a 17-year-old can't be a prostitute in the US because they aren't of age. So that is sex trafficking a minor. Once you actually understand what these words mean, you can have a conversation about it.



Sex trafficking a 17-year-old is wrong. Still not pedophilia.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 2:40 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:39 pm to
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Unless you are a virgin, then you are a pedophile since you are calling abuse of fully developed women pedophilia.



Again, link it or admit you are lying. I just laid out how the conversation went. You won't though, because you're a fricking liar.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39616 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:39 pm to
"my professional opinion

It's my opinion that Luna is correct. So where are the girls who were assaulted and why not offer them extraordinary protections and big money? Let the Dems sue them for breaking their NDAs. It's very easy to go from opinions to facts. Until then, it's 'he said/she said' and melodramatic blather from both sides.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

So where are the girls who were assaulted and why not offer them extraordinary protections and big money? Let the Dems sue them for breaking their NDAs. It's very easy to go from opinions to facts. Until then, it's 'he said/she said' and melodramatic blather from both sides.


According to the DoJ investigator from the other thread, Epstein was paying these kids families off. Up to a half million each. And they flipped and refused to testify against him.

Hopefully this changes. I'm sure they were also threatened.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Sex trafficking a 17-year-old is wrong. Still not pedophilia


Again, quit lying. I never spoke of 17 year olds. That was other people. I claimed they were children. The specific age I used in the other thread was 14. And in this thread I'm saying 10 and 11.

The only people claiming these victims were 17 are the people trying to make excuses for these people's behavior.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87289 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

See, look at the post above yours. Most people find it ALL reprehensible. But in the exchange in question here you were saying that people equate 14 year old girls with women. You frickin said the shite and you know you did, man.


I never said "people equate 14 year olds with women." I've never weighed in on anything of the sort and I don't know what you're talking about.

"Most people find it ALL reprehensible" - what is this supposed to mean? I'm sure most people find Epstein's actions reprehensible. My original statement - that overselling with cooked up narratives about what may have transpired might lead the public to tune out - doesn't require acceptance of the underlying actions or deeming them not-reprehensible. It reflects attention spans and human nature.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2948 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:55 pm to
I watched a documentary the other day where it played the interviews by Florida police and their were some hs girls he was paying for massages that were 14 to 17 years old that were recruited by one of their classmates. These girls were telling police that they would let him do sexual things to them but wouldn't engage in sex with him for money. They were going back on the regular. So while Jeffery was a pedophile these girls were not being held against their will. They were telling him what they would do for money. So those girls were not victims they were prostitutes. While they had homes, were in school and not out on the streets that doesnt make them any less than prostitutes.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87289 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:58 pm to
I disagree. A 16 year old girl being paid for a sexual massage after being groomed for it by Maxwell is 100% abuse. It might be legal rape depending on the instance. They're definitely victims, and I think it's unreasonable to blame teens for recruiting other teens (or at least do so without some grace) - I'm sure they had no idea what to do with all the conflicting stuff bouncing around their not-fully-developed heads at the time.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:59 pm to
It's a fricked up situation for sure. But yeah, it's been "alleged" in court that some of them were forced to actually have sex with these men. Others have come forward and claim Stockholm syndrome. All kinds of shite. Not being held against their will, per se, but flown all over the country with Epstein and other powerful people while underage. It's a frickin mess.

But a few other things to consider are you have Luna now saying some of the victims were as young as 10 and 11. And also you've got New Mexico State Police investigating at his ranch because people believe there are bodies buried there.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13508 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 3:06 pm to
Calm down, nerd.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13508 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

you realize there are just as many GOPers neck deep in this, right?


No. There's not. There are a few. But Epstein was much more cozy and maintained relationships with Dems. The overwhelming majority of his political contributions etc. were made to Democrats.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31585 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 3:15 pm to
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by the way ed the 14 year old was a prostitute with a pimp before she met epstein.


Holy shite man. Re-read what you just wrote. You think a 14 year old is a sexually mature woman using her agency to make these decisions? Sick.
Posted by Jtomka
Member since Sep 2022
347 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 3:15 pm to
Who told you there were 10-year-olds?
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