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re: Paul Whelan
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:21 pm to Northshore Aggie
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:21 pm to Northshore Aggie
Is he even an American? He was born in Canada and holds multiple passports (US, Canada, GB and Ireland). Trump wouldn't swap Bout for Whelan because Bout was too valuable to the Russians...
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:21 pm to Northshore Aggie
Whelan was passing hot checks, that he wrote against his unit account. E6? Are we so desperate to pump this turd up we pretend it’s high rank? It’s not.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:22 pm to Northshore Aggie
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But to CONSTANTLY hear this guy referenced as the "US Marine" left there over Griner is pretty disgusting to me. I've even seen multiple conservative media outlets call him a "retired Marine" and a "war hero". frick that. This guy is a total piece of shite, and doesnt deserve to be referenced as a Marine, especially for political clout.
While all that may be true, he was still more deserving of being exchanged for than Griner. She was undoubtedly guilty of what she was imprisoned for, and was chosen for Joe Biden's political benefit. Even a poor excuse for a Marine is better than her sorry, woke arse. But Republicans should play nice, while Democrats use every possible chance to advance their cause. Take the high road and all that jazz.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:23 pm to Northshore Aggie
I think the issue is the extradordinary lengths the administration was willing to go to There are some still left thst think the government should treat everyone e equally. However, from SCOTUS appointments, to press spokesperson, to working to free oveseas arrestees… this administration appears to have has a pretty clear bias.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:27 pm to Taxing Authority
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I also believe that the Griner deal was an absolute abortion of a political stunt designed solely for the administration to earn social favor points and snub their noses at conservatives. I believe that as with ANY American wrongly imprisoned in Russia, our government should be fighting to get Whelan home because he doesnt deserve to be where he is
I'm just going to quote my own post here because so many of you are rage replying without apparently reading my whole post, even though I agree with you on almost all points. Again - I am not discussing the merits of Whelan v. Griner. Yeah, I think in a vacuum, if I HAD to choose one, I would pick Whelan over Griner. but that is not what i'm talking about. I am talking specifically about my fellow conservatives throwing this guy's US Marine status around as he if he is fricking John Basilone reborn. He is not. He is a piece of shite.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:54 pm to Northshore Aggie
If he was trans or into furry pup play, there’d be an all star cast of entertainers from Hollywood organizing a telethon to raise awareness.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
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although I don't have a good sense for how real his "espionage" conviction was
Nobody really does because the entire trial was held behind closed doors.
These prisoner swaps are almost always going to look bad when we’re dealing with corrupt countries.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:03 pm to Northshore Aggie
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think they should have both been left there over giving up Viktor Bout, because neither of them are worth trading for an arms dealer who is solely responsible for hundreds if not thousands of American deaths.
Something we finally agree on.
But Biden is cut from the same cloth as Obama so nothing surprises me when he is dealing with terrorist. Obama traded 5 Taliban terrorist for 1 American deserter that walked off his post in the middle of the night wanting be to caught. Multiple servicemen lost their lives looking for him. And then all of sudden there was a prisoner exchange with the Taliban for Bowe Bergdahl. Bergdahl should have been left and the men that died looking for him didn’t deserve it. When will the democrats stop negotiating with terrorist and terrorist states?
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:05 pm to Northshore Aggie
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This guy is a total piece of shite, and doesnt deserve to be referenced as a Marine, especially for political clout.
which is why he's still over there.
plus his 4 passports is "interesting" when you consider the charge of spying. citizen of UK. Ireland. Canada land of his birth. and USA.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:07 pm to Lakeboy7
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Are we so desperate to pump this turd up
sure. lots of fake sounding sky screaming too.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:14 pm to Northshore Aggie
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Paul Whelan was a piece of shite
Spies ( and I don’t know if he was one) are traditionally unsavory people.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:16 pm to Northshore Aggie
He still went through the same boot camp as active duty. All Marines are required to go through Basic Bootcamp either at Paris Island, or Camp Pendleton which is determined by your current geographical location in the United Sates. Usually if west of Mississippi River you to go Pendleton and east of Mississippi River you go to P.I. Their are exceptions to allow you to pick where you go though. which is 3 months long. Then after that they either go to MCT(Marine Combat Training) or SOI(School of Inventory) depending on MOS. Then once that is completed they attend their MOS training (Marine Occupational Specialist). In the Marines everyone attends the same bootcamp regardless of your a Grunt, Cook, or admin. Also All Marines must meet certain qualifications yearly to meet the criteria to stay in. Like Height and Weight Standards, Passing PFT(Physical Fitness Test)twice a year, Rifle Range and or Pistol Range Qualifications, and Swim Qualifications. Just the yearly mandatory training for All Marines and reservist is more than most people can endure.
All Marines spend the first 1.5 year+ on active duty before they head to their units. Just completing all that training is taxing with in itself.
All Marines spend the first 1.5 year+ on active duty before they head to their units. Just completing all that training is taxing with in itself.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:17 pm to Northshore Aggie
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I've even seen multiple conservative media outlets call him a "retired Marine" and a "war hero".
This makes me want to hit people.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:19 pm to VolNavy98
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He still went through the same boot camp as active duty. All Marines are required to go through Basic Bootcamp either at Paris Island, or Camp Pendleton which is 3 months long. Then after that they either go to MCT(Marine Combat Training) or SOI(School of Inventory) depending on MOS. Then once that is completed they attend their MOS training (Marine Occupational Specialist). In the Marines everyone attends the same bootcamp regardless of your a Grunt, Cook, or admin. Also All Marines must meet certain qualifications yearly to meet the criteria to stay in. Like Height and Weight Standards, Passing PFT(Physical Fitness Test)twice a year, Rifle Range and or Pistol Range Qualifications, and Swim Qualifications. Just the yearly mandatory training for All Marines and reservist is more than most people can endure.
All Marines spend the first 1.5 year+ on active duty before they head to their units. Just completing all that training is taxing with in itsel
this is totally new information to me.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:20 pm to Lakeboy7
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E6? Are we so desperate to pump this turd up we pretend it’s high rank? It’s not.
Guess you never served a day in the Marines? E-6 is most definitely a high rank. It takes 8-10 years on average to attain the rank of Staff Sergeant. The highest you can go on the enlisted side is E-9 which is Sergeant Major or Master Gunnery Sergeant.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:20 pm to Lakeboy7
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E6? Are we so desperate to pump this turd up we pretend it’s high rank? It’s not.
We aren't the Navy, chief.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:23 pm to Northshore Aggie
He is the real question. Who was he a spy for and also what was he planning to do with all the drive info he stole from Russia? I mean he was representing somebody? He got put in jail for ??
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:26 pm to VolNavy98
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E-6 is most definitely a high rank.
eh...let's not get carried away here.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:28 pm to VolNavy98
Yeah it’s not easy to get to SSgt. I did 11 and got out as SSgt of Marines, selection and pinning at 10 and that’s with a successful b-billet. 3 deployments and recruiting. It used to be 13 years and you’d get kicked out if not SSgt, now I think it’s 10 with a pass iirc. Been 6 years since I got out.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:28 pm to Northshore Aggie
In that case, maybe we’d be better off leaving both and keep the fricking “Merchant of Death” instead of trading for a druggie that shoots layups for a living.
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