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Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:45 pm to
Yeah it’s not common. Zone also affect who it is. Like I said I should have been selected in the below zone coming off recruiting and the last spot takin in zone was a shitbag in the shop I went to after recruiting. I was pretty pissed but they don’t have to take below and I was still treated as back office.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4612 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:45 pm to
this is turning into a Marine circle jerk and that is not the point of my thread.

the point of my thread is that this dude sucks, he is not a good person, he was not a good Marine, and that all other facts aside, conservatives need to stop pumping up his military service as some sort of righteous banner of God.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18340 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:46 pm to
I stand corrected. I still stand by my statement that he is a POS. He had a litany of frickups while in the Corp.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:46 pm to
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This dude is not a war hero, he is not someone who served honorably, and from my perspective, he has forfeited the right to be called a US Marine.


Now do Bowe Bergdahl.

Seriously, stop being a simp for these people who hate you and won't do the same for you.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:48 pm to
Regardless, rescue all or none. If you want to get on topic. We will fight for everyone regardless of who or what their features are, so do the same when getting political prisoners back.

If you’d really like to go into this we should bring up code of conduct, this stunt was and will be used against us for propaganda and demoralizing purposes.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4612 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Regardless, rescue all or none. If you want to get on topic. We will fight for everyone regardless of who or what their features are, so do the same when getting political prisoners back.

If you’d really like to go into this we should bring up code of conduct, this stunt was and will be used against us for propaganda and demoralizing purpos

i agree with all of this 100%, except code of conduct doesnt apply to civilians
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 1:50 pm
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:49 pm to
I am not disputing that at all. All I am pointing out is that he is more of American Hero than Griner is. At one point in his life he decided to volunteer and serve his country. He put the Country ahead of his needs. Only 1% of the current population ever serves in the United States Military. But at the end of the day the United States shouldn’t have never let one of the most dangerous person to walk free.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:50 pm to
Well there ya go. So doesn’t matter in the end, should have been all or none. And even if both are shitbags, there’s still more than them, including another for marijuana charge.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9240 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:51 pm to
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Paul Whelan was a piece of shite Marine who was successfully court-martialed for larceny and he received a bad-conduct discharge. Further, he was an admin clerk who also got caught trying to do his own evaluation.


Now that you got your character assassination of Paul Whelan that justifies bringing home BG over PW out of the way, i'll be waiting on pins and needles to hear you articulate Griner's character and previous arrests for Domestic Violence. At least one had the courage to put on a real uniform.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:52 pm to
Yeah I’d rather them all sit versus this precedent being set so high by the admin. They’re already negotiating Paul with another dangerous person and this is going to open a can of worms. That’s why you don’t do it!!!
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:53 pm to
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except code of conduct doesnt apply to civilians


Should apply to president and he’s the idiot making the deal. He just fricked his country. Example, all of us idiots going back and forth. It’s NOT good!!!
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4612 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Now that you got your character assassination of Paul Whelan that justifies bringing home BG over PW out of the way, i'll be waiting on pins and needles to hear you articulate Griner's character and previous arrests for Domestic Violence. At least one had the courage to put on a real uniform.

go read practically every post i've made on this thread about Griner v Whelan
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18340 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:54 pm to
Bruh alright then! Ok, he served his country, until he didn't. And let's back off with the Hero bit. Don't get me wrong, bargaining for her or him was bullshite and a political stunt. Neither are heroes IMHO.

Oh and thank you for your service.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:56 pm to
Russia played us good.

Grinner admitted to her crime, Paul I don’t think has. So we know 1 is actually guilty the other is being detained as innocent. It’s such a mess.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:58 pm to
Oh and while we argue over this, the biggest kick in the mouth is they let an arms dealer go and now Biden admin wants to restrict assault rifles, whatever that means.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:02 pm to
I’m all for letting them both them both sit if it meant we had to trade the “Merchant Of Death”. But the precedent was set under Obama when he negotiated with the Taliban for Bowe Bergdahl for 5 Taliban Terrorist. Bergdahl should be charged with Treason along with everything else he was and put to death. He alone is responsible for 6 service members death. But Obama thought he was more important than the Taliban terrorist. This won’t be the last bad deal done by our own government.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18340 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:05 pm to
I know I know. Look, I didn't mean to make this a pissing contest. The fact is that our admin did what they did exactly on purpose and don't care that a major arms dealer was set free. It's an abomination.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18340 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:06 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:06 pm to
He wants to restrict all rifles. His team is trying to come up with a bill where you can “permanently voluntarily give up your right to 2nd amendment” and guns. It would make it a crime if you gave up your right and someone gifted you a gun as gift.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2127 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 2:06 pm to
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n that case, maybe we’d be better off leaving both and keep the fricking “Merchant of Death” instead of trading for a druggie that shoots layups for a living.


Consider the source but John Bolton says Trump turned down a deal of Whelan for Bout

NY Post
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