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Posted on 1/20/14 at 5:40 pm to Chuck Barris
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blaming gays for Nazism, Apartheid, the Spanish Inquisition and the French Reign of Terro
That has zero to do with the topic. If he's of base, he's off base. Does that mean he is silenced by the gay agenda?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:06 pm to Layabout
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People are being executed because of what he is inciting. Free speech has limits.
People are executed because of drug use as well. Do people in the us that oppose drug use face the possibility of being sued because of this as well?
They are mad because they blame him for influencing the law making in Uganda.
Where is the lawsuit against Iranians in the US. They are executed there as well.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:09 pm to Toddy
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I thought you were against gays being hunted down and killed? You're no better than Scott Lively
Scott Lively made no such law. Any laws in another country would have to be made following the laws of that country.
Are you telling me that Lively is more responsible for this in the US than the Ugandan law makers are in Uganda?
Again, where is the lawsuit in Iran?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:40 pm to novabill
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Are you telling me that Lively is more responsible for this in the US than the Ugandan law makers are in Uganda?
Does he have to be more responsible to be responsible?
Is he so squeaky clean that this should never even be heard in court?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:10 pm to SammyTiger
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Does he have to be more responsible to be responsible?
Is he so squeaky clean that this should never even be heard in court?
If the argument is that he is responsible for Ugandan laws, he is not. Might he be guilty of being a part of swaying public opinion on the matter? Of course, but then again so is anyone that speaks on the matter.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:32 pm to darkhorse
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People are being executed because of what he is inciting. Free speech has limits.
This
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:40 pm to IdahoTiger
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People are being executed because of what he is inciting. Free speech has limits.
This
I am not in favor of executing people for being gay, nor am in favor for executing them for drugs, but it happens.
How are you going to hold a US citizen responsible for the laws of another country?
What if murders are executed in a country that did not execute, because of the involvement of a US citizen, is that person guilty as well.
I am not saying that in the eyes of us Americans gays and murderers are the same. The point is, that in America, we execute for one violation of our laws, and Uganda has a different view. We are going to do nothing about the law, but allow some fringe group sue and American, in the US courts for the influence he may have had in Uganda?
This is not about law, it is about American politics. We do not like what you stand for and the cause you peddled influence for, so we are coming after you, well actually we are going to allow those outside of the country come after you.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:46 pm to Socratics
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Scott Lively
I am ashamed this individual is a fellow American. He broke a custom of interfering and harming a foreign society and has a huge role in the violence in Uganda.
Interfering with a foreign society in the manner he did is absolutely shameful and he should be punished for it, not by Uganda but by fellow Americans.
America has to carry a standard as the world's most powerful country and we have to be an example for the rest of the world to follow and he dishonored that standard.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:51 pm to Sentrius
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Sentrius
I see. So have you called for the heads of LBGT leaders who call sex with kids acceptable as adults?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:03 pm to darkhorse
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I see. So have you called for the heads of LBGT leaders who call sex with kids acceptable as adults?
If they were advocating sex with female children would it be a leader of the heterosexual community?
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:22 pm to SammyTiger
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If they were advocating sex with female children would it be a leader of the heterosexual community?
If they were the head of a organization that represented heterosexual interests and lobbied for that! YES! and I would be calling for their dismissal!
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:30 pm to sammyptiger
I guess I'm missing the point of your underscoring.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:32 pm to darkhorse
quote:(In my best Samuel L Jackson) English mutherfricker, English! Here, I'll help your ignorant arse:
I never stated his action was in the US, I stated he was BEING SUED IN THE US.
quote:Is that so mutherfrickin hard?
Pastor being sued in the US for gay stance in Uganda.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:48 pm to Sentrius
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I am ashamed this individual is a fellow American. He broke a custom of interfering and harming a foreign society and has a huge role in the violence in Uganda.
Interfering with a foreign society in the manner he did is absolutely shameful and he should be punished for it, not by Uganda but by fellow Americans.
America has to carry a standard as the world's most powerful country and we have to be an example for the rest of the world to follow and he dishonored that standard.
Ole Mr Lively went over there and made them to make it a crime and he dictated their sentencing guidelines.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:08 pm to novabill
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If the argument is that he is responsible for Ugandan laws, he is not. Might he be guilty of being a part of swaying public opinion on the matter? Of course, but then again so is anyone that speaks on the matter.
the allegations are that he worked with the law makers. As well as his other activities within Uganda doing damage as well.
And i don't think my opinion on it really sways Ugandans. Probably because I am not actively trying to.
What we really need is the initial complain.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:34 pm to SammyTiger
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he allegations are that he worked with the law makers.
The law makers made it illegal.
At worst he was a lobbyist, and that is legal here, in the US, maybe if it is not a popular law. Maybe we need, looks like we may have, a no lobbying for unpopular laws, law.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:02 am to darkhorse
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If they were the head of a organization that represented heterosexual interests and lobbied for that! YES! and I would be calling for their dismissal!
So you're advocating that Phil Robertson be dismissed as deacon at his church and from Duck Dynasty?
Phil believes in marrying 15 yos. He's advocated this. When You marry, you have sex so Phil is advocating sex with 15 year olds.
That's what this dead guy you keep mentioned advocated. Sex with 15 year olds. And luckily we have same sex marriage in many states so if we follow Phil Robertson's advice men should be allowed to marry 15 year old boys.
Now tell us why you're so obsessed with penis and assholes.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:27 am to Vegas Bengal
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That's what this dead guy you keep mentioned advocated. Sex with 15 year olds.
Actually a lot younger
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:27 am to Choctaw
We never had freedom of speech. Don't be ridiculous.
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