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re: PANIC in DC: PACER Judicial Records System Hacked
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:41 pm to CountryVolFan
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:41 pm to CountryVolFan
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Why do you think indictments are sealed in the first place?
For various reasons, depending on the case.
But his reasoning made no sense for these purported sealed indictments.
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2. Protecting witnesses. If they are using a CI or cooperation agreement they will protect that witness until exposure is required at trial.
That works for the public, not the parties, in a scenario being proposed.
Again, we're talking about a conspiracy with max what, 20 people? 50? You're not hiding who the source is from the parties involved by saying they're a confidential source of information in the indictment.
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:42 pm to AuburnTigers
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Whistleblowers perhaps?
Again, this is a conspiracy of a small population of people. The whistleblower would come from that population.
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Its not hard to wrap your head around it if you have a modicum of intelligence
You avoid the question and go here
Again, how can these purported co-conspirators not know who the crucial witnesses already are? It wasn't exactly a large population.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:42 pm to Bass Tiger
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My guess is a lot of these so called "hackers" are getting inside help.
It's Brennan and his flying monkeys, for sure.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:43 pm to VoxDawg
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It's Brennan and his flying monkeys, for sure.
If Brennan is part of a deep-seeded conspiracy that existed when these indictments were sealed, which includes the acting AG for 4 years AFTER they were sealed, how would they not already know this information? Why hack PACER when their network could provide copies of this information to them?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Muh Russians!
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:46 pm to VoxDawg
Why didn’t Garland have the sealed indictments dismissed to cover their bases?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:46 pm to VoxDawg
For those of y'all who work in strip malls and/or may have photos on bus benches, I repeat:
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This is absolutely the usual suspects in DC not only seeking to find out what the good guys have on them, but they're trying to establish reasonable doubt against the evidence, claiming the hack they're responsible for could compromise the integrity of the cases.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:46 pm to Jbird
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Muh Russians!
That post would more accurately be labeled "muh Brennans"
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:47 pm to VoxDawg
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For those of y'all who work in strip malls and/or may have photos on bus benches, I repeat:
How did they not have access to this information already?
Barr, Garland, etc. were acting AGs who had access to this information. The FBI field offices involved would have access to this information.
Why hack when they can just get copies through their network, legally and in a clandestine manner?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:48 pm to VoxDawg
deep state doin' deep state stuff
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:that is your assumption based on nothing.
The whistleblower would come from that population.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:51 pm to VoxDawg
Hillary doing Hilary stuff due to grand jury subpoena.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
Says slow Brennan flow
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:51 pm to AuburnTigers
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that is your assumption based on nothing.
Based on logic in how the conspiracy would work and not already be exposed. If you have so many potential whistleblowers so that they couldn't easily be identified in the indictments, was this even a clandestine conspiracy? How many hundreds/thousands of people have this secret information? Why has it taken so long?
I mean Trump had this already signed, sealed and delivered and let Joe Biden win the Presidency in 2020? How fricking dumb is Trump and his inner circle?
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:53 pm to VoxDawg
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They're trying to get to the sealed indictments pending against them...
Not surprising. They are going to do anything they can to survive. I hope the DOJ anticipated this.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again, we're talking about a conspiracy with max what, 20 people? 50? You're not hiding who the source is from the parties involved by saying they're a confidential source of information in the indictment.
What assumption makes you think it was just 20-50 people? There are many more than that but in smaller roles. A combination of them would be crucial. Loosing a few of them would be beneficial for those in jeopardy. You nor I knows how deep the rabbit hole is.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:56 pm to Warboo
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What assumption makes you think it was just 20-50 people?
That's a huge conspiracy of this nature.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The best part about this story is This is the actual story and this chick on X blatantly steals the content then gives an attribution at the end and pretends that's cool, when she could have just posted the link instead
That's what these hack accounts do.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 6:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Um, dumb question. Can you even obtain this type of info through PACER? When I file things in federal court, the ECF filing system is basically PACER. When I want to look up the status of some case, I might use PACER. If a transcript is sealed (say, a settlement conference), the system will show you that. But, I don't think the courts keep that sheltered away within the electronic system or else (a) you would probably have all kinds of mistakes with clerks revealing things they are not supposed to and (b) you wouldn't want this info hacked/leaked. So, my question is, how would hacking PACER get someone access to sealed indictments? I don't think the system works that way.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:00 pm to Bunk Moreland
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When I file things in federal court, the ECF filing system is basically PACER. When I want to look up the status of some case, I might use PACER. If a transcript is sealed (say, a settlement conference), the system will show you that. But, I don't think the courts keep that sheltered away within the electronic system or else (a) you would probably have all kinds of mistakes with clerks revealing things they are not supposed to and (b) you wouldn't want this info hacked/leaked.
It depends on which system was hacked.
The surface-level ECF-PACER won't have it, but the clerk systems will.
Regardless, the indictments won't go away if they're deleted. There are copies of these documents elsewhere.
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