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re: Outline of potential deal to end government shutdown emerges as senators continue talks

Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:30 pm to
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Ok man, you are beyond stupid. Your thinking is only spells death to the GOP. I really think you'd rather have a commie dem party in full control than to see how to win and bend your sophomoric principles a few degrees so as to actually win.

keep playing checkers....never mind you are in a chess match.


I don't care about the GOP. I'm a conservative who votes republican when there are conservative candidates. When neocons are in power, I won't vote for them.

Because neocons like you ARE from the left. You are democrats, you just switched parties in the late 60s. I think you should go back to the democrat party and stop ruining the name and image of the GOP. The only election you've ever won without lying and pretending to be a conservative was 2004.

It's people like you who ruined the image of the GOP in the early 2000s and that lead directly to Obama and the resurgence of the democrat party.

So hey, if you don't want the democrats to win, then stop fricking acting like them.

If the RINOs are going to be the direction of the GOP, then it's time for a new party. I'm only interested in American first. Not the deep state, not the globalist agenda, and I certainly don't base my decisions based on bullshite you keep spouting.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3680 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:32 pm to
I will never vote again if Republicans give an inch. I know these politicians are spineless but I can't vote for a idiot pretending to share my beliefs. Then when I think they do it's all a lie.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:32 pm to
You not a conservative you are reactionary right winger who doesn't even understand what is going on. You're a lumpen conservative useful idiot
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:33 pm to
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You not a conservative you are reactionary right winger who doesn't even understand what is going on. You're a lumpen conservative useful idiot


I want to conserve the constitution.

You want to conserve the deep state.

We are not the same.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:37 pm to
You don't give a shite about the constitution
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:40 pm to
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You don't give a shite about the constitution


If we had a government that properly followed the constitution, 95% of it would be gone.

Again, you are just wanting to defend the deep state and the bureaucracy.

Be honest, which part of the stealing of wealth from other Americans benefits you the most?
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14106 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:42 pm to
If he did that his presidency would be over… Establishment Republican and Dems would override the veto and castrate his opinions
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:44 pm to
You need to touch grass 3down....I'm sure your idea would work in a perfect world. The realist need to take over the right and understand that we win only if we keep it simple, learn how to counter they machine and make our side appealing to the moderate majority and independents.

I swear, the double-down on MAGA crazy is not going to win.

Trump won both of his elections as an outsider who appealed to the middle who were living in the hell of the far left government. Once in power you don't win by emulating them but by being better than them.

Trump and his base need to get woke to what's going on. Trump is not going to be on a ballot again. We need to figure out what we need to do to win. That is what matters. If that means tossing some crazy shite ideas or positions overboard so be it.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:49 pm to
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You need to touch grass 3down....I'm sure your idea would work in a perfect world. The realist need to take over the right and understand that we win only if we keep it simple, learn how to counter they machine and make our side appealing to the moderate majority and independents.

I swear, the double-down on MAGA crazy is not going to win.

Trump won both of his elections as an outsider who appealed to the middle who were living in the hell of the far left government. Once in power you don't win by emulating them but by being better than them.

Trump and his base need to get woke to what's going on. Trump is not going to be on a ballot again. We need to figure out what we need to do to win. That is what matters. If that means tossing some crazy shite ideas or positions overboard so be it.


Your so called realism is just to conform to the existing system that has been fricking over the American people for the past 112 years.

People like you are the reason we are where we are now as a country, and you're just begging for more of it.

Just like for some reason the republicans can't do anything with a 53 lead majority, yet for some reason if democrats get 51 all hell will break lose. Because you don't represent change, you represent more of the bullshite.

If you live in fear, then maybe you should get right with God.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:54 pm to
I'm a realist. I want to win. I don't think you actually care. You think you can ride out the storm if these sick freaks get enough power? They'll come for you just like Lenis and Stalin came for those that thought they could ride out the storm of the Commie revolution of 1917 or Mao's victory over the nationalist in the 1940s.

Stop trying to immanentize the conservative eschaton and realize that we need to win if we have any chance of doing anything to return us to the idea that you are supportive of.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:02 pm to
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I'm a realist. I want to win. I don't think you actually care. You think you can ride out the storm if these sick freaks get enough power? They'll come for you just like Lenis and Stalin came for those that thought they could ride out the storm of the Commie revolution of 1917 or Mao's victory over the nationalist in the 1940s.

Stop trying to immanentize the conservative eschaton and realize that we need to win if we have any chance of doing anything to return us to the idea that you are supportive of.


Republicans don't win because they campaign like libertarians and then govern like democrats. That is why they lose support. And it's all done with people like you making excuses about "51 is what the democrats want" rather than using the current majority to bring about change.

And then you ignorantly turn around and blame everyone else, rather than those actually responsible.

Neocons do not win elections. They can only pretend to be conservative to get elected. Once exposed it's not everyone else's fault.

The only thing worse than a Democrat is a neocon, which is just rebranded Trotskyism. That's what you support, Trotskyism - aka marxism. And I'm not going to fricking doing it.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 11:03 pm
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:04 pm to
Ok, keep losing....I'm going to fight and if that means we have to push fake arse populist like you out of the party to win, so be it
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:05 pm to
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Ok, keep losing....I'm going to fight and if that means we have to push fake arse populist like you out of the party to win, so be it


Yeah, people who want a constitutional government are always the enemy of leftists like you.

I expect nothing less.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:06 pm to
Keep playing checkers...and keep losing at chess.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:08 pm to
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Keep playing checkers...and keep losing at chess.


I'm right with God, I've already won.

Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:16 pm to
Me too, but your and my faith in the good Lord are not the same as politics for our country. You can use your logic to hide behind your faith, which I think is real. But it will not win arguments for why people who are being sold into slavery of the state will suddenly snap out of the welfare induced lethargy and vote for individual liberty, including the freedom of worship/faith.

An islamic commie was just elected and that will be the model for the Dems going forward. Saying Deus Vult and not having an argument is not going to stop them. We need to find a way to win.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:26 pm to
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Me too, but your and my faith in the good Lord are not the same as politics for our country. You can use your logic to hide behind your faith, which I think is real. But it will not win arguments for why people who are being sold into slavery of the state will suddenly snap out of the welfare induced lethargy and vote for individual liberty, including the freedom of worship/faith.

An islamic commie was just elected and that will be the model for the Dems going forward. Saying Deus Vult and not having an argument is not going to stop them. We need to find a way to win.


I'm not a man of faith, nor do I belong to any religion. I find it hard to believe you are right with God. If you were, you wouldn't have so much fear, other than to keep the commandments. Of which are most commonly broken via government.

Beyond that, you sound like the people who claimed Trump was going do a bunch of crazy shite to get people to act out of fear rather than out of common sense and being rational.

Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6116 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:37 pm to
We could end it, get all of Trumps agenda into law, then make the 60 law so they'll never be able to do it back.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2055 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:44 pm to
You sound like you worship Trump not the Lord.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
23431 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:01 am to
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I’ve heard that the shutdown has sucked upwards of $20 billion out of the economy, money that will NEVER be recovered


Our economy shouldn’t be dependent on government spending to begin with. The government has exactly ZERO dollars on revenue. The government “revenue” is take. From our, our children’s and our children’s children’s pockets.


The government needs to starve.
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