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re: Our President's attorney's allege illegal conduct by Robert Mueller

Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:07 pm to
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You've never practiced a day in your life have you? frauds on this board are the norm. I knew you were a fraud from day one.


I mean. I even cited rule 4.4(b). You are silly
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:07 pm to
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Are you still waiting for him to put the cuffs on the Obama team?

I ask you the same about trump. Illegally obtained and viewed privileged info. And still nothing?
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:13 pm to
From the GSA counsel who turned over the emails:

quote:

Specifically, Loewentritt said, "in using our devices," transition team members were informed that materials "would not be held back in any law enforcement" actions.

Loewentritt read to BuzzFeed News a series of agreements that anyone had to agree to when using GSA materials during the transition, including that there could be monitoring and auditing of devices and that, "Therefore, no expectation of privacy can be assumed."

Loewentritt told BuzzFeed News that the GSA initially "suggested a warrant or subpoena" for the materials, but that the Special Counsel's Office determined the letter route was sufficient.

As to whether the Trump campaign should have been informed of the request, Loewentritt said, "That's between the Special Counsel and the transition team."


LINK

Above my pay grade but will be curious to see if Langhofer has a leg to stand on here. I'm betting Michael Dreeben was brought in for just this sort of issue, though.

I'm also wondering if the fact that Langhofer claims the materials are "susceptible to privilege claims" but doesn't directly claim them to be actually privileged (then goes on to ask Congress to change the law to prevent impairment of future transitions) is something of a tell of a weak hand, but

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:15 pm to
That's not how expectation of privacy works. One never informed cannot agree to waive the expectation. Failure to inform of the request and subsequent disclosure is a violation of rule 4.4 and it deprived any opportunity to object.

Honest bob wasn't being so honest. Despite that and despite getting privileged info...nothing came of it.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:19 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 pm to
Suppose this will be adjudicated if Trump doesn't fire Mueller first. And probably still will even then.

How can we say nothing came of it if the investigation is ongoing?
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:20 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:18 pm to
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why don't they just sit back and let this sham run it's course?



Because hundreds of thousands of brave men died to ensure the protections of the Constitution were passed on to us. Governments will go as far as we let them as pleebs. You fight it on principle and on Constitutional grounds.

It's about time someone told these assholes "frick you, you can't do that to a US citizen."

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:20 pm to
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Suppose this will be adjudicated if Trump doesn't fire Mueller first. And probably still will even then


No real need for adjudication. Mueller saw the privileged communication. Nothing came if it. It just goes to show "honest" bob plays fast and loose with ethics rules. I don't expect you to care. I expect you to attempt to justify it
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:21 pm to
Bob Mueller needs no help from me. He'll do his best to justify it if he needs to.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:23 pm to
And he should. Allegations like these are no minor matter. He needs to answer for them.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

I ask you the same about trump
Except I never said anything about Trump getting caught up
quote:

Illegally obtained and viewed privileged info. And still nothing?
You have no idea what he may or may not have
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73430 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:24 pm to
He won't answer, the press will cover for him.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:25 pm to
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Except I never said anything about Trump getting caught up


Wait. What? So you agree the investigation is a farce?
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:26 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

I never said anything about Trump getting caught up
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73430 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:26 pm to
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You have no idea what he may or may not have
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:26 pm to
So you never once said you thought trump was guilty of any wrongdoing?

I'm not sure I can get you a coat brother man. But I can ask.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:27 pm to
I thought you said they'd not be adjudicated. If these are privileged, won't any evidence & testimony based on them be suppressed?

And it's not true that nothing's come from them. They were apparently being used to guide Mueller's interviews of transition officials (appparently this is how the White House came to know that Mueller had them).
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:28 pm to
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I mean. I even cited rule 4.4(b). You are silly




I feel sorry for people that have to lie about their station in life, you have my pity going forward.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:29 pm to

Coming from a guy that lives in his moms basement.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48260 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

I thought you said they'd not be adjudicated. If these are privileged, won't any evidence & testimony based on them be suppressed?

I said there was no need for adjudication. Mueller illegally viewed them. Nothing came of it. The fact Mueller illegally used them to interview people granted. Nothing came if it.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 9:31 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 9:31 pm to
You keep saying "nothing came of it" but the investigation is ongoing.
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