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Our national anthem - schools abandoning it
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:29 pm
When written, it lauded the “land of the free,” but slaves weren’t free.
It’s 2022, and some schools are refraining from signing this song because it’s too controversial. The controversy involves, they say, descendants of slaves (and maybe others) feeling pain because of the lyrics/history.
Obviously 99% of this board agrees with me that schools shouldn’t refrain from signing this song for this reason.
But what is your personal argument that the schools should sing the national anthem?
to me, if the country is worth fighting for, it is worth singing a song that celebrates its highest ideals, even if the song wasn’t true or was hypocritical when it was written. And people whose feelings get hurt have to be taught to deal with it. Life is tough, and we have a pretty good country, at worst.
It’s 2022, and some schools are refraining from signing this song because it’s too controversial. The controversy involves, they say, descendants of slaves (and maybe others) feeling pain because of the lyrics/history.
Obviously 99% of this board agrees with me that schools shouldn’t refrain from signing this song for this reason.
But what is your personal argument that the schools should sing the national anthem?
to me, if the country is worth fighting for, it is worth singing a song that celebrates its highest ideals, even if the song wasn’t true or was hypocritical when it was written. And people whose feelings get hurt have to be taught to deal with it. Life is tough, and we have a pretty good country, at worst.
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:30 pm to baybeefeetz
Seems this quote, that the Italian PM just cited, is applicable.
- GK Chesterton
quote:
We who believe in patriotism once thought patriotism to be reasonable, and thought little more about it. Now we know it to be unreasonable, and know it to be right. We who are Christians never knew the great philosophic common sense which inheres in that mystery until the anti-Christian writers pointed it out to us. The great march of mental destruction will go on. Everything will be denied. Everything will become a creed. It is a reasonable position to deny the stones in the street; it will be a religious dogma to assert them. It is a rational thesis that we are all in a dream; it will be a mystical sanity to say that we are all awake. Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer. We shall be left defending, not only the incredible virtues and sanities of human life, but something more incredible still, this huge impossible universe which stares us in the face. We shall fight for visible prodigies as if they were invisible. We shall look on the impossible grass and the skies with a strange courage. We shall be of those who have seen and yet have believed.”
- GK Chesterton
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:34 pm to baybeefeetz
We stand on the shoulders of giants.
Every creature comfort we enjoy in todays' world is due to the hard work, blood and sweat of those who sacrificed before we were born.
Is it too much to ask to take 2 minutes and sing a song that honors those sacrifices?
Every creature comfort we enjoy in todays' world is due to the hard work, blood and sweat of those who sacrificed before we were born.
Is it too much to ask to take 2 minutes and sing a song that honors those sacrifices?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:43 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
When written, it lauded the “land of the free,” but slaves weren’t free.
So, since they are free now, doesn't that mean the song has only became more true for America over time and should be pushed even harder to represent the endless push to be and stay free.
quote:
what is your personal argument that the schools should sing the national anthem?
Because it's the national anthem and represents what I said above.
Now how about these schools give a valid reason other than someone's fake feelers. No one alive today is feeling the pain of slavery, other than being a slave to democrats/liberals.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:45 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
to me, if the country is worth fighting for, it is worth singing a song that celebrates its highest ideals, even if the song wasn’t true or was hypocritical when it was written. And people whose feelings get hurt have to be taught to deal with it. Life is tough, and we have a pretty good country, at worst.
It's obvious they would be happier singing Obama's "Hope and Change" anthem while saluting the UN flag.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:47 pm to oogabooga68
quote:
Is it too much to ask to take 2 minutes and sing a song that honors those sacrifices?
It can be. In college I went to see "A Fist Full of Dollars" at a local Shreveport movie theater. The announcer said we should all rise for the national anthem before the movie started. About 20 people in the small theater stood up. I did not.
My roommate said 'Why didn't you stand?'
Me: 'It's not appropriate for a Western movie. There are more people in our biology class. Should the professor require us to stand for the anthem before a lecture?'
I don't care about the anthem in schools. The more you hear something the less reverence you have for it. Pick your spots and make them special.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:53 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:I don't sign so I don't know
schools are refraining from signing this song
quote:Certainly weren't free. Owners paid good money for them; including black slave owners.
it lauded the “land of the free,” but slaves weren’t free
How many blacks were on the Princeton/Rutgers teams in 1869? Zero, you say? Must refrain from playing football because the blacks were left out.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:09 pm to Diamondawg
In second grade my teacher (who was 75 at the time) had a damn organ in the room and she played it and we sang it every morning. I miss that America.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:12 pm to baybeefeetz
The anthem is not racist....get that through your thick skulls!
The anthem and the allegience, Christian prayers should be recited DAILY!
The anthem and the allegience, Christian prayers should be recited DAILY!
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:19 pm to NashvilleTider
quote:We did the Pledge but don't remember doing the Anthem except at football games. But we did have a devotion every Monday morning over the intercom system (this was back in the 60s).
In second grade my teacher (who was 75 at the time) had a damn organ in the room and she played it and we sang it every morning. I miss that America.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:20 pm to Zach
quote:
It can be. In college I went to see "A Fist Full of Dollars" at a local Shreveport movie theater. The announcer said we should all rise for the national anthem before the movie started. About 20 people in the small theater stood up. I did not. My roommate said 'Why didn't you stand?' Me: 'It's not appropriate for a Western movie. There are more people in our biology class. Should the professor require us to stand for the anthem before a lecture?'
I think I agree with this ^^^^ …Fist Full Of Dollars isn’t exactly a movie I would be playing the National Anthem before showing the movie…..maybe the showing of To Hell And Back, Tora! Tora! Tora! or Midway…lol
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:22 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
Fist Full Of Dollars isn’t exactly a movie I would be playing the National Anthem before showing the movie…..maybe the showing of To Hell And Back, Tora! Tora! Tora! or Midway…lol
That is exactly what I said to my roommate. Thanks for jogging the memory.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:32 pm to baybeefeetz
If I lived near a school that didn't teach it to kids, I would have one of these in my yard
and every morning play this: YouTube
I wonder what kind of trouble I'd be asking for?
and every morning play this: YouTube
I wonder what kind of trouble I'd be asking for?
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