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Our AG William Barr was also Attorney General during the Ruby Ridge murders in 1992

Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:30 pm
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:30 pm
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On August 21, 1992, the siege began in earnest. Six U.S. marshals, armed and camouflaged, went onto Weaver's property to conduct undercover surveillance. When Weaver's dogs started barking, they shot one of them. Weaver's 25-year-old friend Kevin Harris and 14-year-old son Sammy saw the dog die. Sammy Weaver fired his gun towards the agents as his dad yelled for him to come back to the cabin. "I'm coming, Dad," were Sammy Weaver's last words before he was shot in the back and killed by a U.S. marshal. Kevin Harris, witnessing the agents' killing of the dog and child, fired at the agents in self-defense, killing one of them.

After the initial shootout, the Weavers and Harris retreated into their cabin, and a small army surrounded the area. Says Bovard: "the commander of the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team was called in, and ordered federal agents to shoot any armed adult outside the Weaver cabin, regardless of whether that person was doing anything to threaten or menace federal agents. (Thanks to the surveillance, federal officials knew that the Weavers always carried guns when outside their cabin.)"

Against a handful of rural Idahoans with shotguns, the U.S. arrayed four hundred federal agents with automatic weapons, sniper rifles and night vision scopes. On August 22, 1992, Randy Weaver went to see his son's body in the shack where it lay. He was shot and wounded from behind by FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi. As Weaver struggled back to his house, Horiuchi assassinated his wife Vicki as she stood in the doorway, holding their 10-month-old baby. Although the feds later claimed Vicki Weaver's killing was an accident, the New York Times reported in 1993 that an internal FBI report justified the killing by saying she put herself in danger.


Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:37 pm to
He also went on to further defend the FBI as a private lawyer after he got out of office

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Posted by IllegalPete
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:45 pm to
I am curious what role the AG has in a US Marshall/FBI attack?

(Serious question)
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:22 pm to
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I am curious what role the AG has in a US Marshall/FBI attack?

(Serious question)


His role was in the investigation
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:25 pm to
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Our AG William Barr was also Attorney General during the Ruby Ridge murders in 1992


He's also Muellers long time friend. Mueller attended both of the Barr children's weddings, and his wife still attends Bible study with Muellers wife.

Serious question..if you had that kind of longtime friendship with someone and their family, how hard would you try to discredit him?
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 8:27 pm
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:27 pm to
Probably not too hard.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:30 pm to
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He also went on to further defend the FBI as a private lawyer after he got out of office 

Considering what Randy Weaver got, no wonder Barr left private practice.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:36 pm to
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the New York Times reported in 1993 that an internal FBI report justified the killing by saying she put herself in danger.


Never trust the government.

Anyone advocating for more federal power needs to suffer at the hands of a tyrannical govt
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:36 pm to
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I am curious what role the AG has in a US Marshall/FBI attack?



He approved and was responsible for the rules of engagement that instructed FBI snipers to "shoot to kill" unarmed women and children.

I'm not JerseyTerry, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade.

William Barr is very very swampy. I was hoping Trump would have made a hire of someone less swampy and will less blood on his hands.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:37 pm to
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He also went on to further defend the FBI as a private lawyer after he got out of office



He did it pro bono too.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:40 pm to
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Probably not too hard.


I agree.
Serious question.

Do you find it at all odd that almost all of the people involved at looking at Trump and family, or positioned to oversee the proceedings, are Clinton or Obama supporters or friends of the same?

Why do you suppose that is??

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:42 pm to
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He also went on to further defend the FBI as a private lawyer after he got out of office


Wait. Are you saying it’s ok to question the fbi???
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:44 pm to
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I was hoping Trump would have made a hire of someone less swampy and will less blood on his hands.



I wonder what Trump’s calculation is here?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:46 pm to
He defended the guy that gave the local office orders to shoot to kill carte' blanche whether they had weapons or not. (They did intel and knew he always walked out of his home with his weapon holstered.)

The blame of Ruby Ridge and Waco and Elian @ gunpoint is WJC and more than likely his wife. During the Clinton's militias were formed-even more so after these horrific abuses of power of law enforcement. Reno was ordered by HRC let's face it.

Barr is one of the boys no doubt, worked with honest Bob but try getting an AG that isn't a historical swamp creature. Barr stood up for the man that gave the order because he was his baw. But Louis and Janet Reno were the real POS with the Clinton's ordering hits of crazy redneck white men and their wives holding a baby.

Waco was an extreme abuse of power of law enforcement. CNN showed them burning alive LIVE. I watched this in Cuba on TV and it freaked me out. They had long armed gun tanks and burnt them to death. Cult or not it was wrong. It would be like Trump currently ordering the scientologist's under siege with tanks busting in windows and guns shooting until they were all burnt to death with orders to kill.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
50737 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:48 pm to
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Do you find it at all odd that almost all of the people involved at looking at Trump and family, or positioned to oversee the proceedings, are Clinton or Obama supporters or friends of the same?

Why do you suppose that is??



Because Trump keeps hiring them?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:49 pm to
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But Louis and Janet Reno were the real POS with the Clinton's ordering hits of crazy redneck white men and their wives holding a baby.


Clinton and Reno were not in office during Ruby Ridge.

They only dealt with the clean up.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:55 pm to
And this shite wouldn't fly today with text and instant media. Militia men would be on top of their arse as fast as it takes to shite from an enema.

Also, when you read this, now you know why many say that the people should have equal footing in terms of weaponry. The only reason we don't is for reasons just like this story--government gets the upper hand through technology and better automatic weapons.

God damn I hate government. But I haTE those that willingly bow down to their arse more.

The ranch in Nevada would have been the same outcome had it not been for militia men coming to their rescue. .

shite won't happen again. Neither will Waco. They would have a war on their hands.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:57 pm to
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Because Trump keeps hiring them?



??? Trump hired Mueller's investigative team??
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122667 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:59 pm to
He’s a swamp creature for sure

But I thought you loved Muh institutions??
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