re: Other three officers charged with aiding and abetting second degree murder.

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doesn’t mean it’s not fricked up or that I agree with what he did

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Of course not, I don't suspect that.

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this case is not in anyway a slam dunk.

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They never are. Your observations are pretty spot on IMO.

I think he walks because there is so much evidence in the officer’s favor that it creates reasonable doubt as to his intent to kill him. You have to be able to convict Chauvin beyond a reasonable doubt, and I just don’t think it’s possible when you take everything I to account. The fact that the neck restraint is listed as an acceptable form of restraint for police in MN is going to be a massive hurdle that I don’t think can be overcome. Chauvin can argue he was following training and he will essentially have the state backing him up in black and white.

In all seriousness do I think he deserved a knee to his neck or to die in on a street no. So yes the cops deserve to be disciplined for that if they did something outside of their training or policy.

Beyond that the Medical Examiners report stated that George died from cardiopulmonary arrest. So basically the guy had a heart attack while being arrested. Symptoms of cardiopulmonary arrest? People may experience: Pain areas: in the chest Whole body: collapse, fainting, or lightheadedness Also common: palpitations or shortness of breath. Before the knee ever came into play

You can see video of George falling down when being brought to the car. George was saying he could not breath. If he was showing symptoms of a heart attack and eventually died of a heart attack. How likely will a jury find him guilt beyond a reasonable doubt that he killed with his knee in a manner not listed as the cause of death in the report. Did the knee help the situation? Well of course not.

Yup, and probably right before the November election so riots can start up again, and we can be forced to vote by mail for "our safety"

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Cardiopulmonary arrest is not a heart attack.

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Ok so what is it? Better yet list me the causes?

It will certainly be highly interesting. He'd have to take the stand to assert that xyz was the protocol he was taught and he was simply following that protocol, and if he wants the jury to hear his side of the story straight from the horse's mouth. The biggest risk he will endure on that is once he opens the door on "was just following policy" then the prosecution will be able to cross examine him with records of any past disciplinary actions that involved policy and complaints. I don't know if he's got a tricky past in that regard, but seems like I heard something at some point about a handful of complaints.

True, they could authenticate it and enter it with someone else in the department, but how would they convey to the jury that Chauvin personally acknowledges that is indeed the policy that he knew to be the official policy he went by, and moreover that he was indeed following that policy by detailing his actions? I'm sure he's got some information that may not be captured on video that he'd like made known because only what's on video doesn't appear good to me. The other officers would likely assert their right against self-incrimination if they were called as witnesses in his trial to recount what occurred, as they're co-defendants.

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Not if the department throws him under the bus and says that he didn't follow procedure as he was taught. The department may have to do that in order to avoid having the city go bankrupt in a civil trial.


Going to be really hard to refute the fact that a knee neck restraint is part of the state and the department’s acceptable practices. How are you going to convict him of intentionally killing George when the state has said you are authorized to use this restraint? Seems to me the state is trying to skirt its culpability by charging the guy they told to use it. Again, doesn’t mean I agree with it, but if George is dead because of a neck restraint, some of the blame needs to be placed on the state. Simply charging the officers because it blew up in your face and you want to cover your arse isn’t right either.

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First of all, as I clearly said, being part of the acceptable practices doesn't mean that he followed the administration of the knee restraint as he was taught. That will be their argument.

Second, manslaughter would not involve intent to kill.