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re: Oregon sent 60 FireTrucks to Cali, they are being held in Sacramento for emissions testing

Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Your downvotes are funny.


Mine?

Not my thing.

However, you being concerned about down votes speaks volumes about you.
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:25 pm to
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I bet they made the Canadian scupper aircraft land in Sacramento for safety inspections right?


No idea. Go ask somebody. What has that got to do with fire trucks?

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:28 pm to
It makes the fricking point that stopping these vehicles 5.5 hours away was bullshite

Unless your on scene command really isn't on scene.

Or the frickers refused to suspend the stupidity.

I guarantee you those aircraft and the support equipment didn't go to Sacramento for some fricker to determine safety or serviceability.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:30 pm to
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Then tell me it's safety and the drive could have caused issues. Um you did the inspection 385 miles and 5 hour 40 minute drive away from LA.


To which Danny boy responded?

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Does it matter?


The answer is - yes…it matters.

It also illustrates that he is either a liar, or confused.

quote:

Cool. If you read the thread I have always said nothing about emmisions inspections. I think it's ridiculous to perform emmissions testing on the emergency vehicles.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85205 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:32 pm to
The better question is this.

Is the state crisis center activated and if so why isn't the Governor there?
His state agencies should be there and waiving those things that hinder performance.

That's how each state should be set up

I know Midwest states actually exercise the CATs
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:34 pm to
Also it suggests for fighters and there equipment aren't at the minimum Fed standards for accreditation.

Unless you are demanding during a disaster that assistance from other states must comply with your state requirements of which they have no idea what those are.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Nice deflection.


Just look at this simpering idiot:

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Like the marine dude talking about the PM on his gun or some crap... what does that have to do with emergency response insoections in California?


The only reason I mentioned my military experience is because that idjit introduced the military analogy into the conversation! Yet that moron is apparently too dense to even follow his own arguments in this thread!





This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30612 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:38 pm to
Fox12 says the trucks aren't being held up in Sacramento.

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FOX 12 Oregon on X: "No, California is not stopping Oregon fire trucks for emissions testing, officials say


Which news agency are you going to choose to believe?

Do we even know the actual truth of what is going on with the trucks?

I've heard multiple stories saying different things at this point.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:40 pm to
So they already stopped in?

Are you suggesting multiple news sources saying they fricking stopped for safety inspections but not emissions are lying?

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:43 pm to
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It also illustrates that he is either a liar, or confused.


Based on his performance in this thread, I’ll go with the 2nd option. But he seems more than merely confused; he appears to be an utter moron.

Posted by Dee_oh_Dee
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:45 pm to
Which news agency are you going to choose to believe?


Well, since some have issued retractions or "updates", the fox station will too?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30612 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 4:50 pm to
You win. You're right. I'm wrong about everything I said. You know everything.

Have a good night.

This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42360 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:00 pm to
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But he seems more than merely confused; he appears to be an utter moron.


I will give him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:03 pm to
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I will give him the benefit of the doubt.



Agreed. I can be extremely beneficent in these matters. He is simply an idiot of the first order.

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30612 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:05 pm to
Here's what I said. Link the whole post for context.

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Does it matter?

Politics is playing out. Yes, the stupid lbgtq crap and DEI crap in the LAFD is pathetic... but there are other normal people at risk out there.

I'm not playing the DEI bullshite. That's been done the last several days. We know it's California bullshite.

Move on to the real stuff.


When I asked "does it matter?", I meant that there doesn't have to be reason other than prudent practice or policy that inspections must be performed.

I believe the long drive would be a good reason to preliminary inspection as well.

Quote all of my post next time.


I'm wrong though. You're right about it all. No use of me arguing anymore. Ya'll have it all figured out.


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:06 pm to
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It’s absolutely true. The inspection of the fire trucks including emission testing.


The shift in messaging on the issue is telling. We have gone from “it is fake news” to “no engine was turned away”.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85205 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:10 pm to
Long drive? Like 5-6 hours further?

Come on mister EM guy.

As a person that took the I am so interested from the EM side of it

Do you think the state emergency action plan was activated?

Is the governor of your state in charge of it?

Everywhere I have been stationed or my home state of Iowa has a CAT all agencies are there even the state EM director sets to the right hand of the governor.

This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39829 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:14 pm to
I didn't know state fire marshals were in charge of dispatching trucks and equipment to other states.

Wouldn't that be up to the municipality they came from?

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14498 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:21 pm to
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“no engine was turned away”.

quote:

All repairs were completed the same day with the exception of a couple because of parts but turn around was early next day,"

They weren't turned away, just held up 24 hours until parts arrived to ensure they were "smog compliant".
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23670 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Wouldn't that be up to the municipality they came from?


I would assume so. Perhaps Oregon’s Fire Marshal is simply acting as an unofficial spokesman for the various firefighting teams since they all came from differing localities?

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