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re: Open Enrollment Season Long Thread

Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:45 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:45 am to
We have a discount as well for non-tobacco users. That was included in my listed prices
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:47 am to
Oh and I forgot to mention, we lost fixed copays in favor of 20%. Huge piece I left out.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:48 am to
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I've been through 3 enrollments with this company and they previous ones were in the 7-9% range. How sad is it that I should be "happy" with %14?


Considering 5% is Obamacare tax your rates stayed flat if 9% last year
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:53 am to
That started this year?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85252 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:53 am to
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we lost fixed copays in favor of 20%
That's disgusting.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51817 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:02 am to
We lost ability to cover spouse if their employer offers coverage. In my case, that's a $120/mo increase. Monthly premiums only increased about 2% beyond the expense of adding her separate ins. Copays and deducts stayed the same.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85252 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:07 am to
In our PPO plan, you pay a $100 surcharge if your spouse can be covered elsewhere. I don't know if that includes the exchanges. I'm guessing it means from another employer. There is no surcharge for our HD plan
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:15 am to
If your company has a 1/1 renewal yeah buddy
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:27 am to
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Company pays 80% on HD and 70% on PPO
that makes ALOT more sense! Remember that 80/70% applies to increases/decreases as well. If your "premium" goes up $20,the insurance is actually $100 more expensive.

One of the nastiest thing about employer-provided insurance is that it can hide the true cost from you. (You find out quickly what the real cost is when you are move from employee to self-employed!!)

We give our employees a full report on what we spend, what they spend, total costs, and what's driving the cost up or down. It's been really good for us. As we aren't getting blamed for increases we don't have any control over.

That, and I have stellar employees that understand math!
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37141 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:44 am to
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We lost ability to cover spouse if their employer offers coverage.

We have this also and it was put in last year.

I'll recap:
Premiums went up 15%, but we were offered a tobacco free discount (spouse has to be also if covered) and another discount for doing a health screen, which brings us back close to last years cost. However, we lost fixed copays and now pay 20% so out of pocket is higher, plus the premium of tobacco and no health screen for those folks. We also have to pay a premium if spouse is offered insurance at her employer but stays on mine.

The good news is that we still don't have to meet deductible for routine visits. Only larger things like surgery, hospital stay, etc. so those are only 20% of visits but I will miss my $20 copay.
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