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re: On the subject of 'U.S. citizens being detained'
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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Just one point of clarification (for the X post).
Citizens are not required to carry "immigration documents".
Yes which is why I admit that there is some racial profiling going on.
If you are Hispanic and working on a job site full of illegal Hispanics, should it really shock you that ICE will detain you longer to verify you are a US citizen?
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:09 am to Jugbow
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if they’re legal they will have no problems.
A citizen had a Real ID and it led to problems
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:09 am to LSUTANGERINE
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But how the hell is a person who was born here going to have immigration documents?
That's why they were detained while ICE verified their info
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:10 am to lake chuck fan
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I have a TWIC card and still had to get a Real ID to fly.
That's interesting. I always thought a TWIC card was a sufficient substitute.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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A citizen had a Real ID and it led to problems
Cooperate with law enforcement. Bet that person didn’t get sent away after it was verified they were a citizen.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:12 am to Godfather1
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I always thought a TWIC card was a sufficient substitute.
I don't know if some new legislation happened but I thought a TWIC was basically second only to a passport, effectively.
I thought a TWIC could be used as a TSA Precheck, even
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:13 am to stout
A U.S. citizen should be able to walk down the street with no fear that a government
agent is going to stop and detain him (for even 10 minutes)just because of his ethnicity…
agent is going to stop and detain him (for even 10 minutes)just because of his ethnicity…
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:14 am to VOR
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:14 am to Jugbow
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Cooperate with law enforcement. Bet that person didn’t get sent away after it was verified they were a citizen.
Prove you're a citizen
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:14 am to LSUTANGERINE
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But how the hell is a person who was born here going to have immigration documents? Again, I support the legal deportation of illegal immigrants. I also support the rights of every single United States citizen.
They aren’t deporting the citizens…no rights are being withheld. They are being detained while their citizenship is verified. If you work in a place with high levels of illegal immigrants and you are Hispanic there is a likelihood that you can be detained while your status is being verified. The OP is stating that a Real ID won’t verify citizenship. Probably worth it to carry a birth certificate if you don’t want the hassle.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:14 am to VOR
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A U.S. citizen should be able to walk down the street with no fear that a government agent is going to stop and detain him (for even 10 minutes)just because of his ethnicity…
American citizens are detained every day in traffic stops you smooth brain
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:15 am to Ingeniero
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Prove you're a citizen
I bet that isn't made more difficult if the citizen speaks another language primarily.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:15 am to Jugbow
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American citizens are detained every day in traffic stops you smooth brain
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t because of his ethnicity
How many traffic stops are based solely on ethnicity, scholar?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
It's really not though. One is the forcing of citizens to conform to what the government is telling you, the other is to PROTECT the identities of Federal Agents because of deranged and outright calls to harm both them and their families all because they are carrying out the duties as officers.
You genuinely impress me more and more every day with your way of thinking. I am constantly surprised by your surface level thinking every day, in a new way.
You genuinely impress me more and more every day with your way of thinking. I am constantly surprised by your surface level thinking every day, in a new way.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
We know you love the process and paperwork Don Quixote. You remind of the overweight, middle aged, white, in denial gay man at the college admissions office autistically reminding everyone about their FAFSA forms at Tennessee. Ironically, that’s exactly how I picture you, an overweight, middle aged, in denial gay man.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:16 am to VOR
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A U.S. citizen should be able to walk down the street with no fear that a government
agent is going to stop and detain him
I admit I didn't fully read the article Tangerine posted about the Somali so I'm not sure if he was just walking down the street but I gave actual examples of two Hispanic people detained along with other Hispanics while working.
They weren't just walking down the street and asked to show their papers.
Why are you so hyperbolic and never argue the actual examples given?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:16 am to stout
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how much do you care that a few people get racially profiled and inconvenienced for a few hours
The answer is, most of us don't care at all.
Can we at least admit that ICE Barbie is lying through her teeth?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:17 am to stout
quote:They are 4dummies level clowns.
They weren't just walking down the street and asked to show their papers.
Why are you so hyperbolic and never argue the actual examples given?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:17 am to TrueTiger
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If I am detained in order to verify my citizenship then that would be inconvenient for me. But given the threat to my country I would consider it my patriotic duty.
Imagine for a moment if you or any person’s guns were confiscated until it could be proven without a doubt that all of the firearms were purchased legally and all background checks and paperwork were in order.
Once all of that was verified, people could go down to the police station and pick up rhe guns. It’s it would be messy and mistakes will be made. But it would just be an inconvenience.
Given the grave threat to the country that some people with guns are, would this be a patriotic duty?
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 8:19 am
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:17 am to BabyDraco1499
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the other is to PROTECT the identities of Federal Agents because of deranged and outright calls to harm both them and their families all because they are carrying out the duties as officers.
Wait what?
What a peculiar diversion
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