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Old concept- blood money.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:27 am
Random and off the wall idea here. Would introducing the concept of blood money from historical times, where a man commits murder- the victim's family recieves whatever amount of money decided by a judge that the murderers family has to pay. Along with the proper punishment of the murderer itself. If this was true now, do you think it would lower the murder rates in america? Would gang members consider twice before shooting someone if they know their single mother is going to have to pay a hefty amount?
Or is there a reason why it was done away with/fazed out from future societies? If anyone has knowledge on this topic i would love to know why it worked/didnt work. Im assuming it did not work due to it not really existing in modern times.
Have a great day everyone.
Or is there a reason why it was done away with/fazed out from future societies? If anyone has knowledge on this topic i would love to know why it worked/didnt work. Im assuming it did not work due to it not really existing in modern times.
Have a great day everyone.
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:29 am to Cuthbert13
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where a man commits murder- the victim's family recieves whatever amount of money decided by a judge that the murderers family has to pay.
You do know this is possible today?
See: OJ Simpson for the most famous example
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:33 am to Cuthbert13
The concept of blood money, or diyyah, is alive and well in the Middle East (along with honor killings). Also, in the case of murder, the victim's family gets to execute the perp, often with the weapon the perp used to kill with.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:34 am to Cuthbert13
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Would gang members consider twice before shooting someone if they know their single mother is going to have to pay a hefty amount?
No
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:40 am to Cuthbert13
I could get behind this. Include drunks who kill people in car accidents.
I like this idea, too.
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the victim's family gets to execute the perp, often with the weapon the perp used to kill with.
I like this idea, too.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
No sir. OJ was before my time, was he ordered by the court to pay the family?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:44 am to TheFonz
So the victim’s family would kill the drunk driver with alcohol?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:54 am to Cuthbert13
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Would gang members consider twice before shooting someone if they know their single mother is going to have to pay a hefty amount?
Gang bangers wouldnt care.
The solution if very long prison sentences and a faster tract for death penalty cases. Removal of the violent persons is the only solution.
Levying fines on people wont work because many of these people dont have anything of value. Guns bans wont work because the criminal does not care about laws and will get a weapon anyway. If a firearm isnt available the violent people will use other ways to hurt people. Taking them out of society is the only answer.
And that is exactly the opposite of what democrat\progressives want to happen with criminal justice.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:55 am to Cuthbert13
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No sir. OJ was before my time, was he ordered by the court to pay the family?
He was, he owed millions. And never paid a penny if my memory is correct. (It may not be, that was a long time ago).
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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You do know this is possible today?
See: OJ Simpson for the most famous example
OJ never gave a penny that the court ordered him to.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:57 am to PsychTiger
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So the victim’s family would kill the drunk driver with alcohol?
No, they get to run his arse over with a car.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:58 am to BayouBlitz
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OJ never gave a penny that the court ordered him to.
And the executor of his estate said he would do everything within his power to make sure that not one red cent of the estate went to the Goldmans and the Browns.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:20 am to Cuthbert13
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Would gang members consider twice before shooting someone if they know their single mother is going to have to pay a hefty amount?
Look up "blood from a turnip"
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:25 am to Cuthbert13
What you're describing is a tribal society, and tribalism is completely incompatible with democracy, which views an individual as an individual rather than a member of some tribe or clan that needs to be paid reparations for any harms against its members.
So no -- terrible idea and quite regressive at that.
So no -- terrible idea and quite regressive at that.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:54 am to TxTiger82
I see. Thank you for explaining. I came across the idea from a old crusader song, 'Le Roy Louis' where king louis asks his vassals if they are willing to go to the holy land with him. There a duke said he will defend the kingdom but doesn't want to sow death on the seas. The king responded our kingdom stretches across africa and the desert, and that blood money was owed. When I heard this it made me think of my OP. So makes sense what you said considering the source.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:55 am to alphaandomega
I didn't know this was possible. Thank you for explaining!
Posted on 4/17/24 at 10:56 am to blueridgeTiger
Does this concept come from Islam or is it a cultural continuance?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:13 am to Cuthbert13
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Does this concept come from Islam or is it a cultural continuance?
I'm not sure, but from my experience in the Middle East it seems culture and religion are merged.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:14 am to BayouBlitz
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OJ never gave a penny that the court ordered him to.
Neither would the family of gang-bangers.
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