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re: Ok folks, I'll break down who's responsible for every single government shutdown
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:37 am to ShreveportHog94
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:37 am to ShreveportHog94
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I guess time will tell. I'm not furloughed and a wall is nothing to me. But this is reality and in reality this statement was made: “I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. … I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it.”
He's absolutely the one who shut it down. Now it's up to AngryGrandma & AngryGrandpa in Congress to open it back up by providing funding for the wall.
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:41 am to BugAC
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Do you believe that? Seriously, is this a belief you hold dearly?
Actually I did a quick search of Trump's comments on government shutdown. That first one cannot be verified and I won't claim he made that. I apoligize for posting it beforehand. The others I posted are fact and pretty conclusive to who Trump thinks is responsible for government shutdown. And Trump is right. He is to blame no matter how you slice it. He refuses to pay workers because he isn't getting a couple hundred miles of his vanity project funded. This is the reality of it. Do I care? Not particularly, but it is the truth.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 8:43 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:46 am to VoxDawg
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He's absolutely the one who shut it down. Now it's up to AngryGrandma & AngryGrandpa in Congress to open it back up by providing funding for the wall.
You're right but from what I see is they have the majority support on this. And the longer it stays closed then the more people are going to look for a single source of it. That ultimately falls on Trump. He is not suggesting funding by other means (national emergency) for no reason. He's looking for ways to spin this as a win. And for his base he will always get a win no matter what happens.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:55 am to ShreveportHog94
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they have the majority support on this.
You need to stop hanging out at the airport terminals, because that's the only place I know that shows CNN on the regular.
That is some serious echo chamber, head-in-the-sand, fingers-in-your-ears, la-la-la-la denial.
The dems are gonna lose and lose big on this obstructionism.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:56 am to ShreveportHog94
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He refuses to pay workers because he isn't getting a couple hundred miles of his vanity project funded.
Does the talking points email go out EXACTLY at 4am, or does it run a little late if the Mockingbird lackey oversleeps?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:57 am to ShreveportHog94
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Trump won't sign anything that doesn't pay for the couple hundred miles of wall. Doesn't make sense to me but oh well.
And when he vetos a bill it will become his fault. But he has not been presented a bill to sign or veto. Therefore it's Congress' fault until such time.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:59 am to Centinel
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But he has not been presented a bill to sign or veto.
Bingo. Cocaine Mitch has told that awful harridan on the other side of the building that they're not even going to vote on anything that doesn't include wall funding, so this is squarely on Pelosi.
She's the one who fricked up the negotiation meeting the other day, anyway.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:19 am to ShreveportHog94
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Yes.
Liar. You don’t really believe that. You’re just saying it now because it’s convenient.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:24 am to Centinel
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2018: Want to take a guess?
The opposite of progress?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:36 am to BugAC
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Unfortunately for you, the American public is blaming the Democrats for the shutdown
As they should. They are doing this for a tiny fraction of the budget.
Why fight this? If you don’t care, what way does the existence of a border fence actually impact your life negatively?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:38 am to Weekend Warrior79
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The opposite of progress?
Well played.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:39 am to Centinel
It’s called the Schumer Shutdown for a reason
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:05 am to Centinel
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I'll break down who's responsible for every single government shutdown
Trump has already spoken on this. It’s the president who is responsible. Trump even said this shutdown was on him.
Why try to twist his words after the fact?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:09 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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Trump has already spoken on this. It’s the president who is responsible. Trump even said this shutdown was on him.
Why try to twist his words after the fact?
I don't give two shits what Trump said. I'm talking which part of the government is responsible for funding or not funding the continued operation of said government.
But if you want to play this game...ok.
Do you also agree the shutdown in 2013 was Obama's fault?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:19 am to Centinel
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Ok folks, I'll break down who's responsible for every single government shutdown
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"when they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time. They’re not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who’s running things in Washington. So I really think the pressure is on the president."
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:21 am to boogiewoogie1978
You proggies are in such lockstep with your talking points. Three of you quoting the exact same thing, which has absolutely nothing to do with who is responsible for a government shutdown.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:32 am to Centinel
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which has absolutely nothing to do with who is responsible for a government shutdown.
According to the President it does.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:32 am to boogiewoogie1978
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According to the President it does.
So now what Trump says is gospel? Interesting.
I'll ask you the same thing: Was Obama at fault for the 2013 shutdown?
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:37 am to Centinel
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Three of you quoting the exact same thing, which has absolutely nothing to do with who is responsible for a government shutdown.
In you world this never was said?
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“I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. … I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it.”
I see who I'm dealing with now.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:38 am to GetCocky11
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The guy whose party had control
1. frick party politics.
2. Republicans are hardly Trump's party.
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