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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:37 pm to
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We need all the Arab states on our side, ready to fight, when bombs go dropping again.


If this is what you’re hoping for, you will be disappointed. I don’t expect any help beyond real estate.

Trump makes himself look foolish by even presenting the option and continually pulling back.

Setting aside the blockade itself, this whole execution of “strategy” has been ridiculous. Nobody has any idea what we are trying to do.

Are we doing regime change or just bargaining for nuclear dust? Are we trying to stabilize the Middle East or preserve Israel. I’ve lost track.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16020 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:58 pm to
We've seen almost total opposite assessments of what the Iranians still possess....from crippled to not so fast. Maybe the latter is more viable and has him spooked
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1610 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:11 pm to
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Yeah, at this point is all noise. He will do nothing. He's all bark and just making himself look ineffective.



Remind me again which President in the last 47 years bombed Iran?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28129 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:14 pm to
He didn't finish the job. He opened a can of worms and just decided to leave it alone. I thought he was decisive originally but he has lost the thread. He's the little boy that cries wolf and nobody believes him anymore

I can tell you Iran certainly doesn't.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20590 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:15 pm to
What are you crying about?
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15898 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:17 pm to
This shite is so easy to predict at this point. No deal will be made and hold finger over bomb button again. Whine on social media. Iran calls his bluff every. single. time.
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1610 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:21 pm to
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He didn't finish the job.


I must have missed where the clock ran out
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28129 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:24 pm to
Trump just wants a way out. He won't follow through. He is just a windbag full of hot air, and Iran is down to LAUGHING at him on social media now. He looks weak, and the USA does as well.

As former military I think the man is basically an ineffective pussy.
Posted by Commander Rabb
Member since Feb 2020
1366 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:29 pm to
What ever deal he gets, it will expire on his last day in office. His replacement, no matter who it is, won’t have the nuts to see it through.
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
975 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:47 pm to
I wish Trump would stop saying they want to make a deal badly. Makes him look bad when they don’t follow through. It gives credence to the argument that they are stringing him along.
Posted by everytrueson
Southern California
Member since Mar 2012
7887 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:52 pm to
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As former military I think the man is basically an ineffective pussy.


Thank goodness you are former military.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28129 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:55 pm to
It is my opinion. He hasn’t got the balls to re-engage and Iran and the entire world know it.
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 9:56 pm
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:16 pm to

This is starting to really make Trump look weak, and it's embarrassing us on a world stage. China has no reservations of taking Taiwan, when all it would take is low approval numbers for the president and high gas prices for a couple weeks in the US to make the biggest obstacle back down and come to heel.

I wasn't in favor of starting all this with Iran, but once it started I became fully in favor of decisive and unquestionable victory. IF we believed in this strongly enough to start major action, spend billions on it, and lose American lives - we better finish the damn job and with an exclamation point. Leave no doubt.

The world is watching, and right now we're coming across as a joke. We started off scary and powerful, especially when you consider our initial knocking off of Khamenei right after we kidnapped Maduro - neither one inflicted so much as a scratch on an American asset.

All that strength projection has gone to waste now. Our military members in CentCom have to be pissed. I am pissed.

Trump has lost a lot of goodwill he had with his base that weren't so keen on a new war, but were willing to accept it with a decisive victory that would pay dividends in multiple other ways. Peace in the Middle East along with some new allies with loads of oil, weakening China further, taking a potential nuclear actor off the stage, knocking out the biggest state sponsor of terrorism, dealing a blow to the Muslim invasion, and - most importantly - proving American military supremacy to the rest of the world.

He can still come out with a surprise win here, but it's not looking good. It's ironic that he's holding off on kinetic action because he's worried about his approval ratings and the stock market, but it's his continuing to back down that are hurting both of those the most now.

I'm tired of it all. He'll back down in 3 days again saying they're making progress with great talks, and back down again, and again. Iran has to be loving this shite. They're bringing the world's greatest power to heel with no effort whatsoever because one man is worried about approval ratings that don't matter
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1610 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:37 pm to
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It is my opinion. He hasn’t got the balls to re-engage and Iran and the entire world know it.



So he had the balls on Feb 28th to do what nobody else has done but all of the sudden he doesn't?

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. We whooped their arse for 6 weeks but now we don't have the balls. That must be why we moved a 3rd carrier into the region, because we don't have the balls.

Or maybe there is more to war than having balls
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:43 pm to
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So he had the balls on Feb 28th to do what nobody else has done but all of the sudden he doesn't?

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. We whooped their arse for 6 weeks but now we don't have the balls. That must be why we moved a 3rd carrier into the region, because we don't have the balls.

Or maybe there is more to war than having balls


What is the point of having all that leverage sitting offshore if you've shown over and over again you won't use it?

At this point we have to be sending the same list of demands back and forth with Iran a dozen times each


At this point it would've been perfectly reasonable to start relatively small and hit them a little harder each time they refuse our proposal. The way Trump is playing it, they have no reason to make concessions and I don't blame them. They're not suffering any consequences to denying our proposal and essentially laughing it off while Trump postpones another 2 weeks each time. Why would they capitulate when there's no consequences?
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 10:56 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
28129 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:56 pm to
Something changed. He has gone from decisive to completely pathetic in less than a month where Iran is concerned. He really does TACO every single time.

I honestly don’t believe a word he says anymore. The war has gone from popular to very unpopular, and he cannot find a “win” at all. Instead he flounders, blusters, and generally looks stupid

Power is by actions, not words.
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1610 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:57 pm to
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What is the point of having all that leverage sitting offshore if you've shown over and over again you won't use it?



We used it less than 3 months ago

We could use it again tomorrow and all this panican talk would disappear like a fart in the wind

How many months went by between the June 2025 strikes and the February strikes? And how many people on this board thought the February strikes were gonna happen in June 2025? Probably like 1, me
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11426 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:59 pm to
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It's ironic that he's holding off on kinetic action because he's worried about his approval ratings and the stock market, but it's his continuing to back down that are hurting both of those the most now.


I don't think he is worried about approval ratings or the stock market. It feels like he is more afraid of not being able to bring them to the table and get a tangible deal made.

Deal making is what he hangs his hat on. It's what he does, makes deals and he is running into an entity that just does not care to do that. Now he has to swallow that pill and resume strikes but he keeps holding out hope that there is a deal somewhere to be made.

This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 11:00 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98285 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:00 pm to
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Maybe the USA can send all of the marauding teenagers from here over there. Especially the one's that has been shooting up everything.


He should offer every takeover teenager $1M for each high ranking IRGC member they get got.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27349 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:03 pm to
My sense is that the reality is that the effectiveness of bombing has reached a point of diminishing returns. The fixed military bases are flattened and the IRGC camps are destroyed, but the personnel have relocated to schools, hospitals and residential areas.

We are now at the stage of arming the uprising or putting boots on the ground or some variation on both.

Trump is a fighter. Not sure the Pentagon and Congress are.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 8:25 am
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