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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:02 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Europe is dead. They've committed cultural suicide. They are, however important to U.S. history, "the past".

"The future" is Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

#Facts
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:04 am to
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SecDef Pete Hegseth pushes back on the claim that Netanyahu is pulling Trump into the conflict with Iran:

"Your question is based on the false premise that somehow President Trump is being pulled in by Prime Minister Netanyahu to any of these actions."

"President Trump has led at every step of this based on his view of American interest in America first."

"There's only one hand on the wheel ultimately directing this, whether it's Project Freedom or previously Operation Epic Fury, and it's President Trump."

"We're grateful for their input, their insights, the existential nature of the threat they face from an Iranian bomb, the capabilities that they can bring to that. But ultimately, the coordination will happen with the leadership of President Trump."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:06 am to
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To our Arab neighbors: Our region stands today at a crossroads.

Either a path that keeps the Islamic Republic in power, leading to further crimes against our people and your peoples.

Or another path that supports the Iranians in reclaiming their homeland from the grip of a regime that enjoys no legitimacy whatsoever—and this is the path that will open the door to the return of peace and stability to the region.

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The Islamic Republic has launched missiles at the UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Jordan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. It is targeting our Arab neighbors.

These violations of their sovereignty are unacceptable and we condemn them. But this is nothing new.

This is who the Islamic Republic has always been. And this is why it must end.

For nearly five decades, this terrorist regime has sown chaos and bloodshed across our region.

It propped up Assad, turning Syria into a graveyard.

It planted Hezbollah; as a state within a state in Lebanon.

It armed the Houthis to destabilize the Arabian Peninsula.

It empowered militias in Iraq that undermine Iraqi sovereignty.

It attacked the economic hubs of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

None of this has ever been the desire of the Iranian people, but rather that of the regime occupying our country. Now, however, the landscape has fundamentally shifted.

Assad is gone. Hezbollah has been decimated. The regime’s military nuclear program has been set back. Its economy is in freefall.

The pillars of this regime’s aggression are crumbling.

The Iranian people have paid the price, in blood, to reach this moment. The regime massacred at least tens of thousands of my compatriots in just two days. But it didn’t break the people. Instead, the regime itself is breaking.

Today, history reminds us of our future potential.

Before the revolution, Iran worked closely with Arab leaders — from King Faisal to Sheikh Zayed to King Hussein to President Sadat.

In Oman, my father helped Sultan Qaboos defend his country against insurgency.

We were true partners then. We will be true partners again.

The Iranian people have called on me to lead the transition after the regime is gone. I have accepted that responsibility. Part of their great mandate to me is to return our nation and our foreign relations to normalcy. I will do exactly that.

My commitment is to ensure the transition is orderly, the country is stabilized, and Iranians determine their future through the ballot box. We will not repeat the mistakes of past transitions. We will avoid de-Baathification scenarios and maintain as many bureaucrats and public servants in the transition as possible.

Iranians have made their choice — at an enormous price. Now I ask our friends in the Arab world to join us. To prepare to recognize and engage our transitional government.

We will rebuild our nation not for expansion, but to serve the Iranian people. We will base our diplomatic relations, not on exportation of ideology, but on mutual respect and shared interests. We will reintegrate into the regional and global economy to increase prosperity for the citizens of all of our nations.

Standing with the Iranian people is not charity. It is a strategic investment in making our region one of the most stable, secure, and prosperous in the world.

Together, we can build a Middle East our children will be proud to inherit.

Take this new path with us.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:07 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:07 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:08 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:08 am to
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NOW: SecWar Pete Hegseth reveals NO US FORCES will be entering Iranian waters or airspace, Project Freedom in the Strait of Hormuz is 100% "separate and distinct" from Operation Epic Fury

This is a masterful maneuver!

Now the Democrats can't invoke "War Powers" BS anymore

"We're not looking for a fight, but Iran also cannot be allowed to block innocent countries and their goods from an international waterway."

"Iran is the clear aggressor, harassing civilian vessels, threatening mariners from every nation indiscriminately, and weaponizing a critical choke point for its own financial benefits. At least trying to. For too long, Iran has been harassing ships, shooting at civilian tankers from all nations."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:10 am to
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Security Alert – U.S. Embassy Baghdad, Iraq – May 5, 2026

Location: Iraq

Iraq's airspace has been reopened, and limited commercial flights are currently operating. Individuals considering air travel within Iraq should be aware of the ongoing potential risks posed by missiles, drones, and rocket-propelled grenades in Iraqi airspace. The U.S. Embassy in Iraq reminds American citizens of the Level 4: Do Not Travel warning for Iraq. American citizens are advised: "Do not travel to Iraq for any reason. Depart now if you are there."

Iraq's Iran-aligned terrorist militias continue to plan additional attacks against American citizens and U.S.-associated targets throughout Iraq, including in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. Additionally, certain entities affiliated with the Iraqi government continue to provide political, financial, and operational cover for these terrorist militias.

The U.S. Mission in Iraq continues its operations despite the ordered departure, in order to provide assistance to American citizens in Iraq. Do not attempt to proceed to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad or the Consulate General in Erbil due to significant security risks. If you are an American citizen and need assistance, please contact the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad via email at: BaghdadACS@state.gov, or the Consulate General in Erbil via: ErbilACS@state.gov.

Iraqi Airport Information:

· Baghdad International Airport: flightradar24.com/data/airports/…
· Erbil International Airport: eia.krd/english/flight…

· Basrah International Airport: flightradar24.com/data/airports/…

· Jalal Talabani International Airport (Sulaymaniyah): sulairport.krd

Commercial flights operate from neighboring countries, including Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. Land routes to these countries also remain open, with local ground transportation options available. Local entry and exit requirements apply. American citizens wishing to travel via land borders should review the security alerts and travel guidance for those countries via the official U.S. embassy websites.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:10 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:12 am to
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.@SECWAR "As a direct gift from the United States to the world, we have established a powerful “Red, White, and Blue Dome” over the Strait.

American destroyers are on station, supported by hundreds of fighter jets, helicopters, drones, and surveillance aircraft providing 24/7 overwatch for peaceful commercial vessel—except Irans, of course.

Which is why our ironclad BLOCKADE remains in full effect—as well."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:13 am to
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Al-Jazeera: Washington is distributing to UN Security Council members a draft resolution it is formulating together with the Gulf countries regarding the Strait of Hormuz. According to a diplomatic source, one of the draft's clauses includes a reference to action under Chapter VII of the UN Charter
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:14 am to
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@SECWAR "To what remains of Iran’s forces:

If you attack American troops or innocent commercial shipping, you will face overwhelming and devastating American firepower...

We prefer this to be a peaceful operation, but we are locked and loaded to defend our people, our ships, our aircraft—and this mission—without hesitation.

To Iran—let innocent ships pass freely. These international waters belong to all nations—not to Iran to tax, toll, or control."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:15 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:17 am to
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MAJOR DEVELOPMENT
Iranian President Pezeshkian showed distance between the civilian government & Revolutionary Guards.

This is a good sign.
The IRGC extremists must be pushed aside for any chance at peace and stability.

The fact he is publicly making statements like this is a way to gain the support of the Iranian people. They don't like the regime, but they understand that the IRGC are the main troublemakers.

If Pezeshkian and other leaders can build a counterweight to the IRGC then government with a different agenda, or maybe even a different government entirely, has a chance of appearing.

Wish him luck.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:19 am to
Hope so, however, it’s probably just all an act.
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:21 am to
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:22 am to
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Ismail Baghaei, spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic, said Tehran is negotiating in an atmosphere of deep distrust and suspicion toward the United States, adding that we cannot forget America's unjust aggressions against the Islamic Republic.

He added: "Based on past experience, we decided not to waste time on issues that have previously proven so complex that we could not reach an agreement."
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:23 am to
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Iranian news agency Fars: An Iranian source warned international marine insurance companies: "Only the routes determined by Iran's shipping in the Strait of Hormuz are allowed for use, and Iran is not responsible for securing traffic on other routes. Responsibility for the security of ships that have not received passage approval from Iran will be removed from the moment the ship's engine is operated towards the Strait of Hormuz."
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