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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:08 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:08 am to BayouBengal51
Guess we will send the usual team to negotiate. Don't blame them for not sending JD. Kind of a risky play to send the VP.
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:08 am to BayouBengal51
They realized real quick they want no part of being linked to Iran
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:08 am to Ailsa
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Israel is conducting a massive targeted assassination against the Iranian ceasefire in Beirut. There is no other way of looking at it:
1) It is the largest coordinated strike of the current war in Beirut and one of the biggest ever. The IDF stated it struck over 100 targets within just 10 minutes across Beirut, the Bekaa Valley, and southern Lebanon. At least 300 people have been killed or injured.
2) Netanyahu and the IDF stated that the ceasefire does not include Lebanon. This is, of course, a lie, as Pakistan (which came up with the deal) has confirmed.
3) Iran's Supreme National Security Council announced that it accepted the two-week ceasefire on the condition that the U.S. and Israel stop attacks on all fronts, which specifically includes Hezbollah in Lebanon. Shortly after the deal was announced, Iran warned that any continued attack on Lebanon would trigger a resumption of fighting on all fronts, directly threatening to collapse the ceasefire. That led to this escalation.
4) An Israeli source I talked to, said that the goal is to "use extreme military pressure to force Lebanon into a separate ceasefire on Israel’s terms." In other words, this is an escalation from the previous goal of the operation in Lebanon, designed to create a buffer zone.
5) Now there will be an attempt to force Lebanon into dismantling Hezbollah. Something they lack the technical or political ability to do. Targeting central Beirut infrastructure (Chiyah, Corniche al Mazraa) rather than just southern military outposts, Israel is attempting to make the cost of hosting Hezbollah so high that the Lebanese state, or its other sectarian factions is, forced into a civil confrontation with the group just to stop the bleeding.
6) Hezbollah is now in a position where if they don't respond, they look weakened; if they do respond, they risk being blamed for the collapse of the broader regional truce.
7) By striking immediately after the Iran deal, Israel is attempting to physically and politically "decouple" Hezbollah from its patron. If Iran stays quiet to preserve its own two-week reprieve while Beirut burns, it creates a massive psychological rift between Tehran and its "Jewel in the Crown" proxy. Israel is essentially betting that Iran values its own temporary safety over Hezbollah’s immediate survival.
8) This level of violence acts as a poison pill for international mediators like France or the U.S. who were pushing for a unified ceasefire. By creating facts on the ground (100+ targets in 10 minutes), Israel is making a return to the status quo ante impossible, ensuring that any future negotiations for Lebanon must start from a position of total Hezbollah degradation rather than a simple stop-fire.
Israel dragged the world into this war. It is now trying to make sure that the world cannot escape it. If Trump actually wants a ceasefire he will have to do something he has never had the balls to do. Stop Israel from destroying everything. History shows he won't.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:09 am to BayouBengal51
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Lebanon not included in Iran ceasefire due to Hezbollah terrorists.
“Yeah they were not included in the deal,” Trump says.
“Because of Hezbollah. They were not included in the deal. That’ll get taken care of too. It’s alright.”
On Israel’s strikes: “It’s part of the deal — everyone knows that. That’s a separate skirmish.”
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:10 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:11 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:13 am to BayouBengal51
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"He's impatient to make progress. He has told us to negotiate in good faith. And I think if they negotiate in good faith, we will be able to find a deal."
"That's a big if. And ultimately, it's up to the Iranians how they negotiate. I hope they make the right decision."
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 10:14 am
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:16 am to Ailsa
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:17 am to Ailsa
If we have any balls we need to just start freedom of navigation actions and start escorting tankers through ourselves.
Methinks this may be in the cards but we need to reload the magazines of a bunch of destroyers for it to happen.
Methinks this may be in the cards but we need to reload the magazines of a bunch of destroyers for it to happen.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:23 am to rmnldr
Trump Says He Withheld Iran Strike Intel from Germany Because ‘They Would Have Leaked It’
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ut they wanted me to go and tell them EVERYTHING I was doing. If I would have told them, they would have LEAKED IT, and we wouldn't have been NEARLY as successful!"
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:24 am to Ailsa
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:29 am to Ailsa
What was there to leak? The build up took a month in the first place. You don’t move carriers into theater and don’t use them. Everyone and their grandma knew a strike was coming.
I get that leaks are a concern but we would've never gave intelligence to a non-participating country about when and where strikes would occur.
They just wanted a heads up in advance which is reasonable.
I get that leaks are a concern but we would've never gave intelligence to a non-participating country about when and where strikes would occur.
They just wanted a heads up in advance which is reasonable.
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:42 am to WeeWee
how are they supposed to overthrow the government if they don't have weapons
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:44 am to rmnldr
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If we have any balls we need to just start freedom of navigation actions and start escorting tankers through ourselves.
100%
If any of the tankers get attacked, then it's back to crippling them.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:45 am to rmnldr
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If tweet fails to load, click here. There doesn’t appear to have been a meeting of minds about what’s in the ceasefire agreement.
Trump freaking out and threatening CNN for printing the Iranian position makes me think he was not fully aware of the Iranian position.
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Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:46 am to Decatur
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Trump freaking out and threatening CNN for printing the Iranian position makes me think he was not fully aware of the Iranian position.
Why are you lying? You know exactly what CNN did. They reposted 3rd party trash that was in no way associated with the Iranian authorities.
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:50 am to idlewatcher
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:50 am to rmnldr
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:54 am to rmnldr
Power Plant and Bridge Day back on the menu
Posted on 4/8/26 at 10:56 am to rmnldr
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shaiel ben-ephraim: Israel is conducting a massive targeted assassination against the Iranian ceasefire in Beirut. There is no other way of looking at it...Israel dragged the world into this war. It is now trying to make sure that the world cannot escape it.
Radical Israel hater blames Israel for something, says Israel is trying to destroy the world. Story at 11.
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