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re: Official Round 3 of the Impeachment
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
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The interruption by Schiff didn't occur until Vindman mentioned that the other person he spoke with was a member of the intel community.
Vindman and whistleblower still work together on US policy toward Ukraine
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Alexander Vindman, the Army lieutenant colonel and Ukraine director on the National Security Council who testified on Capitol Hill last month, works with the whistleblower who filed a complaint against President Trump, according to former White House officials.
The Washington Examiner has established that the whistleblower is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the NSC at the White House during the Obama administration and left during the first year of the Trump administration. During the Obama administration, the whistleblower worked on Ukraine issues with 2020 Democratic candidate Joe Biden, who was then vice president and designated as the point man on Ukraine. It is likely that the whistleblower traveled on Air Force Two at least one of the six visits that Biden made to Ukraine.
Now, the Washington Examiner has confirmed that the whistleblower continues to work within the U.S. intelligence community on Ukraine and related regional issues. Separately, the Washington Examiner has established that Eric Ciaramella, who was named by one outlet last week as the whistleblower, is now a deputy national intelligence officer for Russia and Eurasia on the National Intelligence Council, reporting to the director of national intelligence. During the Obama administration and the start of the Trump administration, Ciaramella was Ukraine director on the NSC, the post Vindman now holds.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Correct. But err on the side of caution if you may be outing the possible whistleblower.
But no one knows who the whistleblower is. Why can't you comprehend this?
He could have already outed the whistleblower and we wouldn't know it.
Why stop him from naming this particular individual? He's dropped many, many names in the IC in his depositions so far.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:08 am to Mickey Goldmill
Identity is only protected by the IG but yeah you knew that.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to bmy
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There is nothing remotely credible about his allegation.
But how do we know unless we investigate? Must investigate, & allow the investigation to go on uninterrupted, to find out if crimes were committed. Things are definitely shady! Investigate!!!
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You're basically asking why there is a Whistleblower Protection Act.
You're not addressing the fact that the CIA got busted in a leak trap, and they're desperately flailing as they attempt to couch this in the WPA. Spies are not whistleblowers.
Besides, Whistleblowers are protected from reprisals, not guaranteed anonymity. CIA assets do not qualify.
This is not CrimeStoppers.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to TigerBait1971
Q. Vindman, you are aware now that the WB went to Schiff's staff before drafting the WB complaint, right?
Q. Vindman, I'm not asking you to name anyone, but is the person you spoke with in the intelligence community the same person who went to Schiff's staff?
Q. Vindman, I'm not asking you to name anyone, but is the person you spoke with in the intelligence community the same person who went to Schiff's staff?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to GumboPot
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Why is the anonymity of Eric CIAramella so important to Schiff?
Schiff doesn't want it to be officially known that he and his staff coordinated with Vindman and Ciaramella.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to Centinel
quote:I beg for your forgiveness, kind sir.
Way to ruin my followup baw.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to Mickey Goldmill
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You're basically asking why there is a Whistleblower Protection Act.
Doesn't require anonymity.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to Jjdoc
Been in a meeting. Anything noteworthy yet?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:09 am to Centinel
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What you guys fail to grasp I think is that the Republicans have scripted this just as much as the Dems.
Let's not get crazy now. They aren't that good.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:10 am to OchoDedos
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These open hearings have been a disaster for Democrats.
And just think, these are their best pre screened witnesses.
The ones that said shite they didn't like they didn't invite back to do so publicly.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:11 am to Themole
I think they should have made Gowdy the Repub counsel.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:11 am to OchoDedos
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These open hearings have been a disaster for Democrats.
They'll still claim it was a victory for them.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:11 am to RattyBlowfish
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RattyBlowfish
You get upvoted no matter what for your AV,
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:12 am to Dale51
Why is there a fat dude in the background when a smoking hot blonde is on the other side.move the fricking camera over. 
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:13 am to tgrbaitn08
Ciaramella needs to be permanently reassigned to assess Russian interference in the Bering Strait.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:14 am to bmy
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Now why hasn't Trump had the DOJ open up an investigation into the allegation?
It's because he wanted it off the books.
You keep saying this! WHO CARES!? On the books, off the books....someone needs to look into this shite. It stinks to high heaven & there is a reason!!
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:14 am to jb4
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Why is there a fat dude in the background when a smoking hot blonde is on the other side.move the fricking camera over.
FatBaw is the walking google for Nunes and crew.
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