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Official poliboard vote to approve president's "broad coalition to fight ISIL"
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:34 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:34 am
This is an up or down vote. You must vote!
Background:
Washington Post: recap of speech
my vote: Yea
Background:
quote:
Obama said in a prime-time speech televised from the White House that the United States will join “with our friends and allies to degrade, and ultimately destroy, the terrorist group known as ISIL,” using an alternative acronym for the group that has emerged in Iraq and Syria.
Saying the United States is meeting the threat with “strength and resolve,” the president also sought to assuage the concerns of Americans who are wary of another foreign entanglement, insisting that the offensive against the militant group will not involve combat troops but will rather be a “steady, relentless effort” conducted through airstrikes in both Syria and Iraq, and by supporting military partners on the ground.
“I want the American people to understand how this effort will be different from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It will not involve American combat troops fighting on foreign soil,” he said. Obama compared the new initiative to smaller-scale fights the United States has engaged in. “This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years,” he said.
But the scope of the new operation — which will immediately involve expanded airstrikes, additional U.S. personnel in Iraq and new support for moderate Syrian rebels — is likely to overshadow those two efforts. In the 13-minute address, Obama did not give a fixed date for when the operation might end, and his top aides have suggested it might last beyond his time in office.
Washington Post: recap of speech
my vote: Yea
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:36 am to a want
it's hard for me to say yes or no.
good things: not more troops, working with Iraq to attack ISIS/ISIL
Bad things: giving weapons to groups in Iraq and Syria to fight ISIS. Same crap that keeps us in wars over there.
good things: not more troops, working with Iraq to attack ISIS/ISIL
Bad things: giving weapons to groups in Iraq and Syria to fight ISIS. Same crap that keeps us in wars over there.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:37 am to a want
I certainly wouldn't have told the wackos in Syria I was about to blow their shite up. I'd have just called Assad when the planed were in the air and done it.
All that did was give them time to hide and come up with a plan.
All that did was give them time to hide and come up with a plan.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:41 am to catholictigerfan
quote:
it's hard for me to say yes or no.
Yes it is. That's the point. You have to vote, damn it!
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:44 am to a want
Were it a republican in office, I'd give it an up vote. As it stands, since it is Obama, I have to give it a down vote.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:44 am to a want
my vote is frick no and frick obama.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:46 am to a want
This is going to get whacked. Downvote for lack of support.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:46 am to a want
Agree in Iraq. Disagree in Syria. He needs to hold his nose and join with Assad.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:48 am to a want
quote:
and new support for moderate Syrian rebels — is likely to overshadow those two efforts. In the 13-minute address, Obama did not give a fixed date for when the operation might end, and his top aides have suggested it might last beyond his time in office.
Uh No.
Maybe 14 years ago... a yes... can't honestly say but I'm tired of the arms brokers race with Putin's russia.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:50 am to catholictigerfan
quote:
it's hard for me to say yes or no.
good things: not more troops, working with Iraq to attack ISIS/ISIL
Bad things: giving weapons to groups in Iraq and Syria to fight ISIS. Same crap that keeps us in wars over there.
+1
If I you had to pin to a yes or no, then I would reluctantly say yes
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:51 am to a want
quote:Okay as a great statesman used to do, I vote Present.
Yes it is. That's the point. You have to vote, damn it!
Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:52 am to a want
With a clearly defined plan, upvote. But it appears the logistics are still being assembled.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:01 am to a want
I support using our air power as extensively as necessary along with spec ops. I'm not opposed to helping arm and supply the Peshmerga but skeptical of arming other groups.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:03 am to a want
I vote no. Obama will get more troops killed with lame rules of engagement.
This is about taking out Assad so that Qatar/ Saudi Arabia can run pipelines through Syria, while preventing Russia from running pipelines through Syria. I am not for a single military fatality just to enrich the piece of shite Sunni oil barons in the ME.
I am also against any intervention in Ukraine.
Both the ISIS and Ukraine issues were orchestrated by the petrodollar partners, the World Bank and ME oil barons. They want to use American military blood to defeat BRICS.
This is about taking out Assad so that Qatar/ Saudi Arabia can run pipelines through Syria, while preventing Russia from running pipelines through Syria. I am not for a single military fatality just to enrich the piece of shite Sunni oil barons in the ME.
I am also against any intervention in Ukraine.
Both the ISIS and Ukraine issues were orchestrated by the petrodollar partners, the World Bank and ME oil barons. They want to use American military blood to defeat BRICS.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:08 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
and blow up Assad also.
you liberals sure are bloodthirsty tyrants
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:17 am to a want
No, because he won't finish it.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:22 am to a want
I think its a fight that should be fought but I don't believe barry has the resolve to wage war. Everything is politics with him and last night he gave a political speech more than anything else.
We should kill ISIS, just wish we had more resolute leadership.
We should kill ISIS, just wish we had more resolute leadership.
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