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re: OFFICIAL: Day 4 DNC For Our Future,

Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26360 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:18 pm to
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You've underestimated the amount of people on the left that have become indoctrinated with "don't care who, as long as they're blue". Couple that with exteme TDS, and 4th wave feminism and you've got millions of votes regardless of candidate.


Exactly this. It’s not hard to understand this wave of support that simply wasn’t there for her before. The left wanted someone, anyone, to rally behind that wasn’t near death.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:26 pm to
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You've underestimated the amount of people on the left that have become indoctrinated with "don't care who, as long as they're blue". Couple that with exteme TDS, and 4th wave feminism and you've got millions of votes regardless of candidate.

I'll push back on this.

Yeah, there's about 30% of the electorate that's whackjob Left or has their head in the sand about the Dem base being whackjob Left.

And in the Center and Right, TDS is a real thing but I think it's way overplayed. Two data points -

Arizona (my home state), which is all over the news about Trump-hating Republicans to the point many consider AZ a purple state. He's getting 95% of the Republican vote here, which is in line with how Republican candidates do in their own party.

This board is another example. Six months ago there was a large contingent of Trump supporters that would have bet their lives that DeSantis supporters would never vote for Trump. It was weird, but it was emotional and consistent. There's even a few holdouts that simply cannot believe a "bot" will vote for Trump. Reality/logic dictates that anybody critical of Trump for not being conservative enough would crawl across broken glass to vote Trump over f'n Kamala Harris.

So the TDS outside of the Left is overestimated.

The numbers just don't stack up well for Kamala Harris. We're talking about the candidate that came in 14th place in the 2020 Dem primary, and 3 months ago was so disregarded there was talk about replacing her on the Biden ticket. She's not a serious candidate.

I really do think Trump wins comfortably.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:30 pm to
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Exactly this. It’s not hard to understand this wave of support that simply wasn’t there for her before. The left wanted someone, anyone, to rally behind that wasn’t near death.

Mickey, polls and open ears/eyes say the two biggest issues are the economy and the border/immigration.

1. Do you think a majority of Americans are for an open border or for taking control of the border/stopping illegal immigration?

2. Do you think a majority of Americans would vote Biden economic policies up or down?
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6733 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:43 pm to
Has she said anything of substance tonight? Other than saying she is going to make this country the best ever without explaining how? Frick her and utopian promises.

Tell me what you are going to do, but importantly, tell me HOW, you are going to do it.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
9349 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:47 pm to
The only thing heard of substance was a middle class tax cut. Nothing about how or how much.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:48 pm to
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Has she said anything of substance tonight?

I didn't watch, but if she said anything of substance it would have been the first time. She's running on fake "joy" and fake "threat to our freedoms!" - like I said, she's not a serious person/candidate.
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
890 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 4:44 am to
I truly abhor lying politicians. How can anyone fall for the crap that is spewed from her mouth. Not a single thing about “how” we will fix our problems. Cameltoe is running only on Trump bad, we good. All these empty promises gets under my skin. She’s in office now and has the ability to do what she says yet doesn’t. That should tell people all they need to know. How can people not see that for what it is?

Anyway, I sure hope that Trump wins because if this idiot becomes our president, we are in a world of hurt. Imagine the only thing she was put in charge of, the border, and the cluster that is…now imagine she is in charge of everything…we the people will suffer greatly. Our Nation will no longer be anything to be proud of. It’s almost there after this current stint.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11534 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:33 am to
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middle class tax cut


Here will be the rub or switcheroo, no cut on current rates, but the poltispeak of continuing the Trump tax cuts which she railed against when proposed.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7904 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:42 am to
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Yeah, there's about 30% of the electorate that's whackjob Left or has their head in the sand about the Dem base being whackjob Left.


I will disagree. I think it is at least 40 percent or higher. Much like their congressmen/women - they are lock step

The republican problem is some of the 40 percent hate trump so much they would rather vote against him than the party and the better principles

I find convincing any democrat to not vote for her to be a hard sell. Hillary was that hated.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6589 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:04 am to
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like I said, she's not a serious person/candidate.


Neither was Barrack Obama and he served two terms and is still perhaps the most powerful public person in that party.

We are increasingly not a serious country and those pulling the strings are well aware of it. In 2020 they elected a dementia patient who hid nearly his entire campaign. Don't underestimate the stupidity (or corruption) of modern America.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24678 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:21 am to
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You show up every day and put in work.


Which is weird, because most real lawyers don’t have that time.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87543 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 6:47 am to
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Which is weird, because most real lawyers don’t have that time.


I think Mickey is employed by the state. It would explain that as well as a lot of other things.
This post was edited on 8/23/24 at 6:48 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:42 pm to
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I will disagree. I think it is at least 40 percent or higher. Much like their congressmen/women - they are lock step

The republican problem is some of the 40 percent hate trump so much they would rather vote against him than the party and the better principles

Well, you need to start with the fact that the electorate is only about a third Democrat.

Moreover, I know it doesn't seem like it but there are some Dems that are not down with the open border, recognize the Left's assault on freedom of speech, and don't agree that men can have babies.

An interesting question: are there more Republicans with legit TDS than there are Dems opposed to open borders/free speech/believe men can't have babies?

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I find convincing any democrat to not vote for her to be a hard sell.

Depends on what you mean here. Yeah, I agree that it's a hard sell to convince any Dem to vote Trump instead of Kamala, but less hard is the notion that they'd not bother voting. Trump gets the Left's vote out, no doubt - but I wonder if we'll see a little wind come of this sail with an utter retard that's also a whackjob Leftist heading the Dem ticket.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21813 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Neither was Barrack Obama and he served two terms and is still perhaps the most powerful public person in that party.

I don't remember it that way. I remember BO being pretty compelling on the stump, being able to articulate positions and not giving off general "I'm a f'n retard" vibes.

Politically, Obama was holy hell for America, but there's no comparison between his general aptitude and political skills and those of Kamala f'n Harris.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 8/23/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Imagine the only thing she was put in charge of, the border, and the cluster that is…now imagine she is in charge of everything…we the people will suffer greatly.


She/her/them/IT is "in charge" now, right? It damn sure isn't Biden.

Who is in charge of this, right now?

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