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re: Officer pleads guilty after leaving handcuffed suspect to drown

Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:17 pm to
Are there requirements for any of that?

I know we all say it should be common sense, but does anyone know if it's defined and trained to for these officers?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Until motivated citizens carry out extrajudicial executions nothing will happen. In a just world the officer would be assassinated.




You're a lunatic.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:18 pm to
Enjoy your presence on an FBI list
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

The policy is ALWAYS to handcuff a detained individual
no.

the policy is to SECURE a detained individual, for their protection and yours.

very clearly this kid was not secured.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:20 pm to
quote:


I know we all say it should be common sense, but does anyone know if it's defined and trained to for these officers


Well, he has already plead guilty to a crime so I'm going to assume that he has a legal responsibility to do so.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

If this was a car and the cop detained a man, didn't buckle him in, and then lost control and wrecked into a tree at 80mph killing the perp.. there would be no question whatsoever.


Of course there would be questions and no reasonable person would conclude based on the facts that you just listed that the LEO was guilty of any form of murder.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:22 pm to
Involuntary manslaughter seems like something that should have at least been talked about
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Well, he has already plead guilty to a crime so I'm going to assume that he has a legal responsibility to do so.


Guilty to a "misdemeanor boating violation." What was that specifically tied to? Could've just been that he was going too fast. Hell, it could've been because he didn't have a whistle close enough to him at the wheel.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

no.

the policy is to SECURE a detained individual, for their protection and yours.

very clearly this kid was not secured.


well sure, but just the same as if you handcuff a subject and then seat them on a sidewalk. That's not REALLY secure, but it's rare to see a LEO get in trouble for something like that.

My question would be more geared toward policy. Why would they not have two officers there ? This officer , obviously could have just put the boy in cuffs and waited for another officer or two to show up.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Involuntary manslaughter seems like something that should have at least been talked about
It's not so much the plea that bothers me in this case, since if you read the article the family just didn't want to go through the stress of a second trial

It's the fact that he's still on the force
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:34 pm to
It's just so egregious when we're locking up people for years for telling people to kill themselves but this guy's negligence was directly responsible for a death, and basically nothing


How is anyone okay with this?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:36 pm to
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It's the fact that he's still on the force
Why wouldn't he be? Misdemeanor boating violations don't seem serious enough to get one fired.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:36 pm to
If that had been my kid that cop would have had an "accident". No way I could ever let that go.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11185 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

the excuse for making this a crime was:

"to save lives"

and what was the result?

dude died anyway



Yea, but only the would be drunk driver died. He didn't get to kill any innocent family out fishing.

by me.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:38 pm to
Let it be known that Snipe supports capital punishment for drinking and driving- without even getting a day in court.

What are your thoughts on Sharia?
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:40 pm to
Might want to reread the thread.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49158 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:41 pm to
He murdered a guy
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10479 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:42 pm to
Good to know the cop will not be charged with his actual crime. Makes one wonder why the public could ever distrust the police.

Maybe one day we get to read another story about this officer.....
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64665 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:44 pm to
I left off the life jacket part. Chewy got it.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10479 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:46 pm to
quote:


I have lots of questions here, too many to render an opinion on whether the officer committed a crime.


Are you just as slow to render said opinion when a cop is killed?
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