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NYT: Ron DeSantis’s 2024 run has faltered before it has even begun.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:34 am
There you have it. The NYT says DeSantis doesn’t have a chance!!1!
I am linking the Twitter post, because it should allow you to read the full article, whereas linking the actual article brings up a paywall if you’ve read anything recently.
LINK
I am linking the Twitter post, because it should allow you to read the full article, whereas linking the actual article brings up a paywall if you’ve read anything recently.
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Allies have abandoned him. Tales of his icy interpersonal touch have spread. Donors have groused. He has dropped in polls.
In six short months, Ron DeSantis’s 2024 run has faltered before it has even begun.
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In November, Representative Byron Donalds scored a coveted speaking slot: introducing Gov. Ron DeSantis after a landslide re-election turned the swing state of Florida deep red. Standing onstage at a victory party for Mr. DeSantis in Tampa, Mr. Donalds praised him as “America’s governor.”
By April, Mr. Donalds was seated at a table next to another Florida Republican: Donald J. Trump. He was at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s private club, for a multicourse dinner with nine other House Republicans from Florida who had spurned their home-state governor to endorse the former president’s 2024 run. Red “Make America Great Again” hats decorated their place settings.
In six short months from November to May, Mr. DeSantis’s 2024 run has faltered before it has even begun.
Allies have abandoned him. Tales of his icy interpersonal touch have spread. Donors have groused. And a legislative session in Tallahassee designed to burnish his conservative credentials has instead coincided with a drop in the polls.
His decision not to begin any formal campaign until after the Florida legislative session — allowing him to cast himself as a conservative fighter who not only won but actually delivered results — instead opened a window of opportunity for Mr. Trump. The former president filled the void with personal attacks and a heavy rotation of negative advertising from his super PAC. Combined with Mr. DeSantis’s cocooning himself in the right-wing media and the Trump team’s success in outflanking him on several fronts, the governor has lost control of his own national narrative.
Now, as Mr. DeSantis’s Tallahassee-based operation pivots to formally entering the race in the coming weeks, Mr. DeSantis and his allies are retooling for a more aggressive new phase. His staunchest supporters privately acknowledge that Mr. DeSantis needs to recalibrate a political outreach and media strategy that has allowed Mr. Trump to define the race.
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Still, his central electability pitch — MAGA without the mess — has been badly bruised.
A book tour that was supposed to have introduced him nationally was marked by missteps that deepened concerns about his readiness for the biggest stage. He took positions on two pressing domestic and international issues — abortion and the war in Ukraine — that generated second-guessing and backlash among some allies and would-be benefactors. And the moves he has made to appeal to the hard right — escalating his feud with Disney, signing a strict six-week abortion ban — have unnerved donors who are worried about the general election.
“I was in the DeSantis camp,” said Andrew Sabin, a metals magnate who gave the Florida governor $50,000 last year. “But he started opening his mouth, and a lot of big donors said his views aren’t tolerable.” He specifically cited abortion and Ukraine.
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For years, the self-confident Mr. DeSantis has relied on his own instincts and the counsel of his wife, Casey DeSantis, who posted the video, to set his political course, according to past aides and current associates. Mr. DeSantis has been written off before — in his first primary for governor; in his first congressional primary — so both he and his wife have gotten used to tuning out critics.
Today, allies say there are few people around who are willing to tell Mr. DeSantis he’s wrong, even in private.
In late 2022, the thinking was that a decision on 2024 could wait, and Mr. Trump’s midterm hangover would linger. Mr. DeSantis published a book — “I was, you know, kind of a hot commodity,” he said of writing it — that became a best seller. And Mr. DeSantis was on the offensive, tweaking Mr. Trump with a February donor retreat held only miles from Mar-a-Lago that drew Trump contributors.
But it has been Mr. Trump who has consistently one-upped Mr. DeSantis, flying into East Palestine, Ohio, after the rail disaster there, appearing with a larger crowd in the same Iowa city days after Mr. DeSantis and swiping Florida congressional endorsements while Mr. DeSantis traveled to Washington.
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Mr. Trump has insinuated, without providing evidence, that Mr. DeSantis had inappropriate relationships with high school girls during a stint as a teacher in the early 2000s and that Mr. DeSantis might be gay.
His team has portrayed Mr. DeSantis as socially inept, and a pro-Trump super PAC distributed a video — dubbed “Pudding Fingers” — playing off news articles about Mr. DeSantis’s uncouth eating habits.
People close to Mr. Trump have been blunt in private discussions that the hits so far are just the start: If Mr. DeSantis ever appears poised to capture the nomination, the former president will do everything he can to tear him apart.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:37 am to Tuscaloosa
The left wants DeSantis to fail because they see Trump as a slam dunk win for Dems. And they may be right….
….but if they’re not….oh my.
….but if they’re not….oh my.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:39 am to SquatchDawg
Just like 2020, nobody beats Trump this time. DEVOLUTION!!
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:40 am to SquatchDawg
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The left wants DeSantis to fail because they see Trump as a slam dunk win for Dems. And they may be right….
Yep. Their playbook is open for all to see. The only way they win in 2024 is if Trump is the nominee.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:40 am to SquatchDawg
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because they see Trump as a slam dunk win for Dems
-Signed, every Dem in 2016.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 11:42 am to SquatchDawg
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The left wants DeSantis to fail
every democrat leftist on this board wants Trump to lose to desantis
Posted on 5/13/23 at 12:38 pm to Tuscaloosa
Bump for our anti-DeSantis folks. NYT is on the case!
Posted on 5/13/23 at 1:31 pm to Proximo
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every democrat leftist on this board wants Trump to lose to desantis
Why would a Leftist want the more conservative candidate to win?
Hell, a good chunk of Trump's base is comparatively liberal.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 1:37 pm to Tuscaloosa
We love the NYT don’t we folks?!?!?
Posted on 5/13/23 at 1:39 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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because they see Trump as a slam dunk win for Dems
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Signed, every Dem in 2016
If only we knew the sort of people Trump would hire, how he would handle a pandemic, and how he would campaign and debate against the poster child for “Visiting Angels”.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 1:42 pm to Tuscaloosa
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The only way they win in 2024 is if Trump is the nominee.
For such a smart guy, accomplished career, you sometimes make me question your intellect.
Yea guess there was no cheating in ‘20. You’re right.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 1:47 pm to Tuscaloosa
Now does everyone understand why President Trump started attacking him when he did?
Posted on 5/13/23 at 2:14 pm to Tuscaloosa
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For years, the self-confident Mr. DeSantis has relied on his own instincts and the counsel of his wife, Casey DeSantis, who posted the video, to set his political course, according to past aides and current associates.
The DesantisOnlyFans got all hot and bothered with me a bit back for mentioning my concern over how involved she is. I was "full of misinformation believing anonymous sources"...Im looking forward to them disregarding this article based on this.
It is concerning what the donors are saying they don't like. I wonder if they are afraid it's a losing position or they are ok with the evil the lefties push.
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 2:35 pm to Tuscaloosa
The idea of trump going unchallenged is bad.
What’s bad about desantis and trump battling it out? Either option works, and iron strengthens iron.
What’s bad about desantis and trump battling it out? Either option works, and iron strengthens iron.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 2:37 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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-Signed, every Dem in 2016.
And every non-Trump supporting Republican.
“He can’t beat Hillary, you idiot! We need Rubio or Cruz.”
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 2:43 pm to Run Ultra
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What’s bad about desantis and trump battling it out? Either option works, and iron strengthens iron.
Only Trumpers know that DeSantis can beat Trump.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 3:08 pm to Tuscaloosa
I am not buying this bullshite that donor's are pissed about Ron's stance on Ukraine. His stance isn't really any different than Trump's and it's pretty much in line with what the base thinks.
Some may not like his battles against wokeism but its proved pretty popular thus far.
Some may not like his battles against wokeism but its proved pretty popular thus far.
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