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NY Times v. Sullivan (1964) re: public trust of mainstream media
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/19/26 at 12:12 pm
I did not know this. It pretty much lets the activist media operate with impunity.
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Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:09 pm to High C
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:15 pm to High C
That’s a neat chart, but it also coincides directly with the rise of the internet and the decentralization of news sources.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:24 pm to boosiebadazz
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That’s a neat chart, but it also coincides directly with the rise of the internet and the decentralization of news sources.
If I'm reading the chart right, about 2/3rds of that downward slope was pre-social media.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:33 pm to boosiebadazz
Yeah, I think that’s at least part of it. The timing is doing a lot of work here. The trust drop starts in the 70's (Vietnam/Watergate era), then you get media fragmentation (networks-->networks+cable), then the internet, then social media layering on top.
That one case might affect how aggressively media can operate, but it’s not obvious why a 60's legal standard would map onto a steady decline in public trust decades later, so it feels less like one cause and more like:
-early institutional shocks then...
–audience fragments then...
–collapse of gatekeeping then...
–identity-driven trust
That one case might affect how aggressively media can operate, but it’s not obvious why a 60's legal standard would map onto a steady decline in public trust decades later, so it feels less like one cause and more like:
-early institutional shocks then...
–audience fragments then...
–collapse of gatekeeping then...
–identity-driven trust
This post was edited on 4/19/26 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:35 pm to TigerDoc
Russiagate did massive damage to the media and intel agencies.
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:50 pm to High C
quote:perhaps you could tell us what that is
NY Times v. Sullivan (1964)
Posted on 4/19/26 at 9:53 pm to Bunk Moreland
Big media events like that probably do affect trust & they layer onto existing mistrust rather than creating it from scratch (and then feedback to affect the institutions themselves). Revelations of real abuses (Watergate, intel scandals) often end up feeding broader conspiracy thinking and distrust, even when they’re meant to restore accountability (& repair/reform the institutions). And at the same time, “media bias” framing has people already primed to interpret those events through an ideological lens when they inevitably arrive and the "separate realities" interpretations ensue.
This post was edited on 4/19/26 at 10:15 pm
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