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re: NY Times: latest UFO article - crash retrievals (Tucker reporting it, pg. 6 and 12)

Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:21 am to
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:21 am to
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Sounds biological to me.


Sounds biological to most people. But I don't think it is.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:24 am to
Thinking back to the Star Trek Series, I think it was a general universal principle of NON-INTERFERENCE in regard to contacting and interfering with planetary species and their evolving civilizations. As long as those Civilizations did not present direct harm.

We know that there are Universal Laws of the 'Physical' Universe...are there Universal Laws of a (assumed) Spiritual Universe as well?

The very essence of Quantum Physics (Universal, Physical Laws) Theory is that the 'Physical' Universe - if viewed in the Quantum scale - essentially becomes Subjective to a large degree. I.e., 'Personal'...I.e, Spiritual...as being a 'Perceptual' product as much so an evolved, complex 'Entity' that began from the 'bottom up'. The alternative would be a 'Top down' paradigm; I.e., a 'Matrix' form of Reality...with 'God' (Self-Aware Energy) as the essential Source of Perceived Reality.

Short argument: It may well be that the Aliens are limited by Universal Spiritual Laws which forbid them to interfere up to or until it is determined whether our Species is indeed a 'threat'; or that once we are on the verge of the acquisition of virtually unlimited power - via Knowledge - the critical determination of our 'threat' status, can only be determined at the point in time of our acquisition of said power.

"What is bound on Earth, is bound in 'Heaven'". We may be taking a Worldly 'test', to see if we are 'Spiritually' capable and willing to act in the Spirit of Love (Unity), as opposed to letting our Evolutionary Source, Darwinian Nature rule. Such a 'test' is the essence of the Fermi Paradox Theory of a "Great Filter".

Aliens are just a piece of the puzzle. The real issue as we have evolved to this point - has become one of Spirit. Not who/what we are...but who/what we INTEND and are capable of being. Parallel Universe Theory likely applies here. M Fermi's "Paradox" might apply to this perceived Universe, but if Reality is truly Spiritual...then it matters not on a Personal level that one is 'filtered' out (eternal death), but more so that one moves into another Parallel Universe of one's own intention. "In my House, there are many Mansions". Concise implication of where good folk are headed.

Thank you Jesus. Seems I remember that even the Aliens respect that Name. Not surprising...they'd better.

"...the pursuit of happiness".
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:27 am to
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You're being dishonest. I don't think that claim has been made even once in this thread. This is a strawman argument and it begs your motivation for being in this thread
Oh c'mon. You know thats what ufologists use these events as "proof" of visitation.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:30 am to
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Sounds biological to most people. But I don't think it is
You tend to make many leaps in your thinking.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:32 am to
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Oh c'mon. You know thats what ufologists use these events as "proof" of visitation.


I don't think any UFOlogist worth their salt is going to call these videos "proof" of anything of the sort. The only thing they're proof of is something engaging the Nimitz, and the .gov's acknowledgment of their existence.

And in this particular thread no claims such as you describe has been made. Imo, these aren't alien craft, but instead black project craft of our own making.

So no, when people "observe" something the claim doesn't automatically jump to "aliens from outer space."
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:34 am to
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 no, when people "observe" something the claim doesn't automatically jump to "aliens from outer space.
This is absolutely wrong. But I am happy that you go to earthly craft before aliens.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:36 am to
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You tend to make many leaps in your thinking.




I've been down this rabbit hole for a long time, man. After it happened to me I felt like I had to learn everything I could about it.

In order for me to produce the entire logic chain it would take pages upon pages to do. So yeah, I just cut it down to the brass tacks there and gave you my opinion. That being, I disagree. I don't think it's a "biological" function. I think that it's the "function" that happens when the biological part goes away.

And this shouldn't be too shocking to anyone. Because this is where the Bible says people go after death too.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:54 am to
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Not to mention all the religious implications.

And those would be what? Jesus said "my father's house has many rooms"
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:08 pm to
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And those would be what? Jesus said "my father's house has many rooms"

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And those would be what? Jesus said "my father's house has many rooms"



Yep, our 'heaven' or 'hell' becomes the consequence of our own chosen belief and action. Perfect Justice. Perfect 'Gift'...of Life...from The Source. Like Joe and last year's Tigers...perfect run; but not without a price. Paying the 'price' is what makes the journey worthwhile.

Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Haha!
If you haven't already to get caught up on all of this UAP stuff listen to in order:

1 Joe Rogan/Bob Lazare
2 Joe Rogan/Col Fravor


Caught up on these since you posted. Very interesting stuff. Will watch the George Knapp one later. From the comments on the Bob Lazare Rogan cast, it seems like his Netflix video is all over the place and the Rogan cast is better. Is it recommended to watch that as well or nothing different from the Rogan cast?
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:04 pm to
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This is the biggest news in 2000 yrs
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:17 pm to
Please tell me you folks don't believe in aliens... There are UFO's, only in the sense that there are unidentified MILITARY flying objects that we aren't told about. But aliens? Anyone claiming this is either lying for attention or to get people off the trail by saying outlandish things to discredit the rumors. After all, we can't have our enemies know about secret military projects.

But, sure, let's go ahead and believe the alien theory instead. While we're at it, let's go find Big Foot, because I bet the government is hiding him, too.

The deep state hides murders, sex trafficking, illegal surveillance, etc. But the U.S. government is not hiding little green men.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:19 pm to
You are just mad that you haven't been selected for probing yet.

Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:21 pm to
Dude, you are way behind. Scientists aren't scared to admit they believe there is life out there anymore.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:24 pm to
So you don't think we landed on the moon and have robots on Mars.

Got it.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6711 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:28 pm to
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Dude, you are way behind. Scientists aren't scared to admit they believe there is life out there anymore


Please don't give me the bs "you haven't been following" argument. Just because I don't agree with you does not mean I am not totally aware of all the rhetoric that's out there.

"Scientists" are currently telling us that Covid-19 is killing the world. Do you believe them? No CREDIBLE scientist believes there is any evidence for extraterrestrial life. They might have some personal fantasies about the idea of life, elsewhere, but they know nothing supports that theory.

So telling that some goons out there "aren't scared" to "admit" there is life out there is not evidence that there IS life "out there". That's just a statement without evidence. There is no scientific or Biblical basis for other life in the universe. This is flat Earth type of propaganda on steroids. It shocks me to see how many people are so easily fooled.
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:29 pm to
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Please tell me you folks don't believe in aliens... There are UFO's, only in the sense that there are unidentified MILITARY flying objects that we aren't told about. But aliens? Anyone claiming this is either lying for attention or to get people off the trail by saying outlandish things to discredit the rumors. After all, we can't have our enemies know about secret military projects.




The Government, The New York Times, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and I'm sure others are all saying these things come from somewhere other than Earth.

My personal opinion is that these tic-tacs are ours, but why would it be unreasonable, based on this recent news, for someone to think the technology came from aliens? They're saying it didn't come from Earth.

It's like people aren't even considering the source material and are jumping straight to, "this is impossible and anyone who believes it is a lunatic." This thinking does a great disservice to us all.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:31 pm to
What a ******* loser.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6711 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:31 pm to
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So you don't think we landed on the moon and have robots on Mars.

Got it


Is this some kind of inside joke that I'm missing? Because believing we landed on the Moon, and believing in aliens are not remotely the same things.

We actually know about those things. We haven't found evidence of a single planet that is close to being the right conditions to support LIFE, which would would be necessary in order for aliens to exist. See the problem?
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