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re: Nurse who injected 8,600 patients with saline instead of Covid vaccine gets probation

Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:28 pm to
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You’re so ignorant, no wonder the repubs love getting your vote.


Ignorant is an interesting choice considering that you were knowingly ignorant of the efficacy/side effects of the clot shot and still are ok with it being administered.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35778 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:29 pm to
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So if your child was sent home from school with a note to they had to receive a vaccine that was entirely new and untested or else they would be excommunicated from society, and you made the decision to give your child the vaccine so as to prevent them from being ostracized knowing that it was completely unknown what the side effects could be. Then the doctor who is charged with giving said vaccine makes a decision on their own based off of information they have to not administer this unproven vaccine, but instead a saline solution. Then later on you learn that the vaccine your child was forced to take was never tested for potential side effects, that it never did anything to prevent/stop what it was intended to stop. You would hopefully be pretty pissed off, and very nervous about the potential harm to your child. But then you learn that the doctor who administered the vaccine did not inject the vaccine that was required, but instead a saline solution.. you are telling me you would not be elated with joy? I would personally go and thank that doctor for making such a decision.


It doesn’t matter how I would feel.
The doctor in that scenario would be unequivocally wrong in his actions and in lying about the treatment he provided.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Did she cause them any harm? Or expose them to harm in making the decision she made?

Both questions are irrelevant.

She breached her duty of care by lying.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:32 pm to
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I'll ask again, where are you getting the info that these 8,600 patients were under a mandate to get the vaccine?


You never asked that.

I do not know that all of the 8600 were under a mandate. But many were, and that is not ok. Not only that, but those who got the vaccine did so because of lies. It doesn’t do what it was said to do, and the side effects are still not known. If I would have gotten the vaccine knowning all we do now I would feel pretty pissed. You were lied to, and were given something that was known to not do it’s intended job thus exposing you to a known unknown.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:32 pm to
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But many were

You don't know that either
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35778 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:33 pm to
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I do not know that all of the 8600 were under a mandate. But many were, and that is not ok. Not only that, but those who got the vaccine did so because of lies. It doesn’t do what it was said to do, and the side effects are still not known. If I would have gotten the vaccine knowning all we do now I would feel pretty pissed. You were lied to, and were given something that was known to not do it’s intended job thus exposing you to a known unknown.

More irrelevancies.

The nurse lied to the patients. She provided care that they did not consent to. That really is the end of analysis.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 5:34 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:33 pm to
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It is very likely that she did


So saline solution causes damage? Lol
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:34 pm to
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You don't know that either


So none of the 8600 were under a mandate? Not a single one? Lol
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Never made the claim to know about medicine. But that does not mean that I am not allowed to view the topic at hand and have an opinion. Or does it?

Of course you're allowed to have an opinion and speak about it. Just as we reserve the right to point out that your stance is infantile level stupidity.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:37 pm to
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So none of the 8600 were under a mandate? Not a single one? Lol

No idea


Considering they were allegedly elderly I'm sure a lot were retired and not subject to mandates

But it's all speculation. No one here could even make an educated guess as to what % were mandated
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:38 pm to
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More irrelevancies.


Irrelevant if you choose to not acknowledge the obvious. Sure.

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The nurse lied to the patients.


The manufacturers of the vaccine lied, the government lied. The entire reason for getting the vaccine is a lie. And many got it because they were forced, others got it because they were told it would help prevent/stop Covid. It did not do anything, and the manufacturers knew this. Instead of being mad at them, you want this woman who prevented her patients from being exposed to a known unknown to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It is simply amazing to see how well the media has conditioned many of you. You will think and do as they demand without ever questioning anything. Even when it is proven that you were lied to you defend it.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:39 pm to
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You never asked that.



Yes I did. Top of page 20.

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I do not know that all of the 8600 were under a mandate. But many were, and that is not ok. Not only that, but those who got the vaccine did so because of lies. It doesn’t do what it was said to do, and the side effects are still not known. If I would have gotten the vaccine knowning all we do now I would feel pretty pissed. You were lied to, and were given something that was known to not do it’s intended job thus exposing you to a known unknown.



You do realize that millions of people still believe the vaccine was a good thing, right? They still believe it was worth getting. Many of those 8,600 probably felt that way then and still do now. This nurse lied to people who wanted the vaccine and made the decision for them.

Not everyone believes they were lied to about the vaccine like you do.

But again, all of that is irrelevant at the end of the day because she lied to her patients and injected them with something without their consent.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:40 pm to
The number of people who got the vaccine because they were forced to is not known, nor is it relevant. If it was one, that is a problem.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26368 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
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So saline solution causes damage? Lol



Elderly people who wanted the vaccine because it helped against severe illness, didn't get it because of a lie, then later died of covid.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
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If it was one, that is a problem.

Sure...but not really relevant to the actions of the nurse
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:41 pm to
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You do realize that millions of people still believe the vaccine was a good thing, right? They still believe it was worth getting.


Many people believe in Santa clause too.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17094 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:42 pm to
It is relevant to the entirety of the vaccine topic.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35778 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Irrelevant if you choose to not acknowledge the obvious. Sure.

Obvious what? No context allows for her action without patient consent to receiving a saline injection.
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The manufacturers of the vaccine lied, the government lied

Irrelevant.
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The entire reason for getting the vaccine is a lie

Irrelevant
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And many got it because they were forced, others got it because they were told it would help prevent/stop Covid. It did not do anything, and the manufacturers knew this.

Irrelevant.
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Instead of being mad at them, you want this woman who prevented her patients from being exposed to a known unknown to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Who says I’m not mad at them? Their actions are reprehensible but have no bearing at all on whether this woman acted illegally and wrongly within her profession.
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It is simply amazing to see how well the media has conditioned many of you

It has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with the most basic principles of healthcare.

You’re the one making it about the covid vaccine. It doesn’t matter what the care was. The only thing that matters is that she lied about it.
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You will think and do as they demand without ever questioning anything. Even when it is proven that you were lied to you defend it.

Nope. My opinion on this woman’s actions and my opinion on the vaccine itself or the information fed to the public surrounding it are not related.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:42 pm to
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It did not do anything, and the manufacturers knew this.

This is your personal opinion and isn't supported by facts
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:43 pm to
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