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re: Notable Epstein Accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre Dies by "Suicide"

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Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:00 pm to
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The probability is extremely, EXTREMELY low. You're basically arguing every attorney involved (including the prosecutors who were so good they convicted Maxwell without her having to testify) were completely incompetent. Every single one of them.


They seemed so incompetent that I wondered how they got a law degree. Hmmmm…. There are a lot of billionaires and heavy hitting politicians involved in this.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:02 pm to
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But she didn't really have any other evidence to give about other clients.
how could you possibly know that

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The probability is extremely, EXTREMELY low.
So you dont know for certain.

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You're basically arguing every attorney involved (including the prosecutors who were so good they convicted Maxwell without her having to testify) were completely incompetent. Every single one of them.
Im arguing that you do not know if she would have been a witness in any of the other Epstein clients trials that HOPEFULLY are coming down the pipeline.


You dont know, yet you pretend to. Silliness.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:04 pm to
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and she certainly could have.

The question is why didn't she?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:05 pm to
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They seemed so incompetent that I wondered how they got a law degree. Hmmmm…. There are a lot of billionaires and heavy hitting politicians involved in this.

And yet, Epstein was arrested and Maxwell was convicted

And a prominent member of the British royal family was a focus of her testimony. Doesn't get more high profile than that.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:05 pm to
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Isn't her damage against Epstein, et al already done? Her testimony was about Epstein, Maxwell and the procuring of young girls. She hadn't named any clients at this point and she certainly could have.


SFP I have always respected your knowledge of law but your common sense and being able to see the obvious is just embarrassing.
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:06 pm to
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and she certainly could have. The question is why didn't she?


She never will now. Another coincidence.
Posted by TrailDawg77
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:06 pm to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:07 pm to
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how could you possibly know that

Because I'm assuming literally every lawyer involved in 2 separate litigations wasn't a 70-IQ retard. If you want to claim that's a silly assumption, feel free, but you have to defend your argument.

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So you dont know for certain

Of course not. To do that I'd have to be her guardian angel and exist over her shoulder literally her entire life. That's an unreasonable standard to meet.

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Im arguing that you do not know if she would have been a witness in any of the other Epstein clients trials that HOPEFULLY are coming down the pipeline.

Again, the deposition is public. Those questions were not outside the scope of her deposition.
Posted by Warboo
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:09 pm to
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And yet, Epstein was arrested and Maxwell was convicted And a prominent member of the British royal family was a focus of her testimony. Doesn't get more high profile than that.


Look to her family and friends on how they are doing. Look to some of the other people that could possibly testify. You will see a pattern or should be able too.
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:09 pm to
SFP = loser of the highest order
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:11 pm to
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The question is why didn't she?
So weve established you dont know for certain. Good.

Why didnt she what? give testimony about someone other than who was on trial. And youre a "lawyer" ?

Is it normal to give testimony about someone completely different than the accused on trial?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:12 pm to
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She never will now. Another coincidence.

The last time she was involved in anything related to Epstein directly was what? 8 years ago?

There is no coincidence, no matter how many times you try to invent one.

The depositions were taken approximately 9 years ago. The criminal trial concluded in 2021.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:13 pm to
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Why didnt she what? give testimony about someone other than who was on trial. And youre a "lawyer" ?

She sued Epstein, Maxwell, etc.

She gave a deposition in that civil trial.

Depositions are not limited to trial testimony.

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Is it normal to give testimony about someone completely different than the accused on trial?

In a deposition? Yes.

She was also interviewed by federal agents/prosecutors, which was not limited in any way, also.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:13 pm to
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The last time she was involved in anything related to Epstein directly was what? 8 years ago?

There is no coincidence, no matter how many times you try to invent one.

The depositions were taken approximately 9 years ago. The criminal trial concluded in 2021.
you cant get past the fact that she could have been a witness in an upcoming trial against a client. You dont know.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:14 pm to
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you cant get past the fact that she could have been a witness in an upcoming trial against a client.

a. They convicted Maxwell without her testimony, so a conviction is possible

b. There aren't any pending indictments, let alone "upcoming trials"
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:14 pm to
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She was also interviewed by federal agents/prosecutors, which was not limited in any way, also.
So you know for a fact that those 70 IQ lawyers asked her if she had any info on any of the other clients and she responded no?
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:15 pm to
Yes she did damage to Epstein and Co. And now she's most likely dead for it, which I'm sure makes anyone else willing to come forward and accuse another royal or billionaire super excited and willing to do so.

You are so smart you're downright stupid.
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:15 pm to
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b. There aren't any pending indictments, let alone "upcoming trials"
Once again, you dont know this either. Just pure speculation on your part
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:17 pm to
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Yes she did damage to Epstein and Co. And now she's most likely dead for it, which I'm sure makes anyone else willing to come forward and accuse another royal or billionaire super excited and willing to do so.

There is almost a decade gap where she was doing just fine where these people would have had no such fear.

Posted by BamaScoop
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:18 pm to
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SFP always defending the evil side of every issue


Isn’t he the gay lawyer on here?
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