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re: Not Even the Pentagon Thinks Tariffs Are Needed for National Defense

Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:07 pm to
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The interesting thing is, he didn't.

Yes I am familiar with the conservative religion. Ie, all economic success under a Democrat is credited to the previous Republican. Any challenges are directly in response to that Democrat's policies however (to include starting the Presidency under a recession). On the contrary, a Republican President is responsible for any economic gains the economy enjoys starting from his opponent's concession speech until the eighth year and final year of the follow on President's term.
In other words, Trump is responsible for any positive impacts from November 2016 until 2032 but anything bad that happens is due to either Obama or whoever takes over for Trump.
This explains how supply side economics has survived so many obvious failings and kept its followers.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:08 pm to
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Yes I am familiar with the conservative religion


It's not "conservative religion" that the recovery under BHO's was the weakest since WW2.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:09 pm to
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This explains how supply side economics has survived so many obvious failings and kept its followers


Just threw this out there to ensure everyone would know you're retarded, eh?
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:12 pm to
"weakest recovery" is one of the most pathetic lines of attack of all time. I'm actually assuming you are joking to be honest. Start off in the red and end up in the black. That's called success. It's also a bullshite statistic because it was also one of the longest lasting recoveries in history.
The amount of people who took a macroeconomics class when they were 18 and start trying to school people is always amusing on political forums.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Just threw this out there to ensure everyone would know you're retarded, eh?

Say what you want. We have folks in this thread saying "Presidential policies have nothing to do with the economy. There are natural ebbs and flows" in response to the recovery but that are also saying that Trump is directly responsible for the stock market and unemployment numbers.

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retarded
Yup.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:14 pm to
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When did the DOD become a group of expert economists?

Oh, when their contractors’ wallets might get lighter.

Riiiiight.


Trump has been great for business.

Drain the swamp!
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:16 pm to
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Trump has been great for business.

Drain the swamp!

I honestly feel like if half the conservative crazies took a gander at how much basic admin people make working for defense contractors their heads would all explode at the same time. 90k/year for answering phones..."privatizing government services! drain the swamp!"

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:23 pm to
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weakest recovery" is one of the most pathetic lines of attack of all time. I'm actually assuming you are joking to be honest. Start off in the red and end up in the black. That's called success.


"I don't actually know what the frick I'm talking about"


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It's also a bullshite statistic because it was also one of the longest lasting recoveries in history. 


Ya don't say?

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The amount of people who took a macroeconomics class when they were 18 and start trying to school people is always amusing on political forums.



I didn't take macro. :shurgemerji:
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:25 pm to
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Say what you want. We have folks in this thread saying "Presidential policies have nothing to do with the economy. There are natural ebbs and flows" in response to the recovery but that are also saying that Trump is directly responsible for the stock market and unemployment numbers.



This has nothing to do with supply side theory. These are called "opinions", and both of the "two" sides have players who believe that the economy is largely self directed and "ebbs and flows".
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:27 pm to
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I honestly feel like if half the conservative crazies took a gander at how much basic admin people make working for defense contractors their heads would all explode at the same time. 90k/year for answering phones..."privatizing government services! drain the swamp!"



I'm more worried about the shitbags on the government payroll to begin with. Virtually all incompetent or unnecessary. This one retard on here has bragged about being in charge of a "billion dollar enterprise software development team". I knew immediately that he was paid by uncle sugar.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:28 pm to
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both of the "two" sides have players who believe that the economy is largely self directed and "ebbs and flows".
Except in this case its the same people with a different opinion depending on who is in charge and the extent to which it can be used to confirm their world view.

You jumped in white knighting and don't even know what is being discussed. Looks like HHM fled the thread when cornered so at least you kept it fun for a spell...
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:30 pm to
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I'm more worried about the shitbags on the government payroll to begin with
I mean...you are a conservative. Federal employment is public enemy number one for everyone wearing the red jersey. Defense contractors can sodomize tax payers with no issues...

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Virtually all incompetent or unnecessary.
A bold statement. A large number of those folks are veterans as well. I always wonder how people reconcile a platform of military hero worship while also believing that these folks become lazy and incompetent once they retire.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135305 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Yes I am familiar with the conservative religion. Ie, all economic success under a Democrat is credited to the previous Republican.
No. No. For example GHWB cost himself re-election d/t economic ineptitude. Clinton almost did, but then he cooperated with a GOP Congress and performed well.

With an inherited recession, refusal to touch SS reform, 9-11, and inherited Fannie/Freddie liabilities, etc., no one was going to have a great economic tenure from 2001-2009. "W", like his dad, allowed himself to be undercut and defined. Had he had his way with SS and Fannie/Freddie, the great recession would have been substantially mitigated. He didn't. It wasn't.

That said, Bush handed the aftermath fairly well. Obama did virtually nothing but ride Bush policy for 4 subsequent years.

Same tax policy, same TARP policy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135305 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:49 pm to
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"weakest recovery" is one of the most pathetic lines of attack of all time.
Truth is pathetic?

You should write copy for MSNBC.

Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30864 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 4:53 pm to
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toward some kind of 18th century mercantilism.
and I bet you thought Lincoln was a great President.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:00 pm to
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Except in this case its the same people with a different opinion depending on who is in charge and the extent to which it can be used to confirm their world view.


Wait, is this about supply side, or hypocrisy? I'll let you pick the topic, but I don't want to bounce around too much.

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You jumped in white knighting and don't even know what is being discussed



This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 5:01 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:04 pm to
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I mean...you are a conservative. Federal employment is public enemy number one for everyone wearing the red jersey. Defense contractors can sodomize tax payers with no issues..


This is of course, all in your head. I make no distinction between "federal employees" and "Sodomizing defense contractors". Money all comes from uncle sugar.

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Virtually all incompetent or unnecessary.

A factual statement. 


Fify.

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A large number of those folks are veterans as well. I always wonder how people reconcile a platform of military hero worship while also believing that these folks become lazy and incompetent once they retire.


Who worships the military? I would cut it in half today if given a magic button. The military is just another welfare program. Many, many, people in the military are lazy AF, just a tad less lazy than their DA CIV/contractor counterparts.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 5:31 pm to
I get paid a significant amount of money for each position I own. It's amusing when people pretend it's a win to fill one of these federal positions with a contractor.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26248 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 6:07 pm to
I trust trump over the pentagon!
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 12:31 am to
At least you keep it real
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