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re: NOPD's Secret Use of Real-Time Facial Recognition
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:25 pm to TigerCoon
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:25 pm to TigerCoon
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that sounds fishy
Everything about the company is fishy
Clearview AI lists an address in NYC that doesn't even exist and the founder of the company operates under an alias that isn't his real name. They allegedly use this software with over 500 police departments but they will not publicly tell you which ones.
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:30 pm to Powerman
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Founded in 2017 with the backing of a group of investors including Peter Thiel, Clearview initially operated in relative secrecy. For several years, it built up the world’s largest database of human faces by scraping the Internet and running them through a facial-recognition algorithm that it says can identify people with 99.85% accuracy. (Clearview’s library of images of people’s faces has grown to 40 billion—an average of five images for every person on Earth, and a 400% increase since the start of the war, Ton-That tells TIME.) By 2018, Clearview was quietly selling access to its database to a host of eager government clients, which grew to more than 600 law enforcement agencies, including U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the FBI.
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Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:33 pm to TigerCoon
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Do they keep images of everyone who walks past the cameras?
They likely have the images before you walk across the cameras
That's the only way it could be effective
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:39 pm to Powerman
Using this data to match images to actual identified suspects (i.e., the guys on the lamb from OPP) seems different than identifying suspects from a database of images and then arresting people three states over based on that and that alone.
The ACLU article of the OP is rather vague (deliberately?) as to what the NOPD is actually doing with this technology.
The ACLU article of the OP is rather vague (deliberately?) as to what the NOPD is actually doing with this technology.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The ACLU article of the OP is rather vague (deliberately?) as to what the NOPD is actually doing with this technology.
It wouldn't be crazy to suggest that perhaps the police departments aren't being that transparent about what they're doing with it
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:45 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The ACLU article of the OP is rather vague (deliberately?) as to what the NOPD is actually doing with this technology.
If you have any information, please share it. I've been unable to find many details about the use of this.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:46 pm to Powerman
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It wouldn't be crazy to suggest that perhaps the police departments aren't being that transparent about what they're doing with it
I guess, but the article doesn't even really give a hint either. As others have mentioned, there are tons of holes in the horror story example, which had to do with JP not NOLA.
I'm gonna need a little more than this if you want to spark my outrage. And, again, the timing of trying to do this now seems really odd.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:47 pm to 4cubbies
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If you have any information, please share it. I've been unable to find many details about the use of this.
I have no clue. That's what I'm saying.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:49 pm to Y.A. Tittle
it's all sketchy
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:49 pm to Powerman
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They likely have the images before you walk across the cameras
Which would only be possible unless it's tied to a database containing ID photos, drivers license etc.
TSA does face scan at airports
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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the timing of trying to do this now seems really odd.
Facial recognition was used to capture one of the jail breakers. That's what prompted the press release.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:50 pm to 4cubbies
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it's all sketchy
Not necessarily.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:52 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Not being transparent about this technology is sketchy.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:52 pm to 4cubbies
quote:So that's a good thing, right?
Facial recognition was used to capture one of the jail breakers.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:52 pm to 4cubbies
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the timing of trying to do this now seems really odd.
Facial recognition was used to capture one of the jail breakers. That's what prompted the press release.
I understand and that's what I figured. Trying to paint it as some super scary deal based on that (and trying to tie it into this other weird story that doesn't seem analogous at all to this type of use) doesn't make a lot of sense.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:53 pm to 4cubbies
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hen let the people who live here vote on it.
We already see what happens when they let the idiots of New Orleans vote on anything
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:53 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Wait, are you saying that they all look alike?
targeting of marginalized communities
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:55 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Trying to paint it as some super scary deal based on that (and trying to tie it into this other weird story that doesn't seem analogous at all to this type of use) doesn't make a lot of sense.
I viewed it as a PSA. "Be aware that the government is using this technology that is extremely invasive and is frequently inaccurate."
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:55 pm to 4cubbies
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I've been trying to find out what happens to the videos, where it is stored and for how long and I haven't been able to find any clear answers about what is stored and for how long.
The data is way more useful in real time, than say 30 days after the fact. If they are using it to compare to people who are 'wanted' what good does it do if they know someone who was wanted was walking down Iberville 30 days ago?
Posted on 5/20/25 at 1:58 pm to 4cubbies
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this technology that is extremely invasive
Is it though?
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