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re: Non-biblical divorce has destroyed the nuclear family
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why did you go back so far?
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which is considered the golden age of families in this country.
Shows like Leave it to Beaver and The Andy Griffith Show are/were widely considered some of the greatest shows that depict family life. Would you rather live in a modern day Mayberry or Chiraq?
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:16 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Shows like Leave it to Beaver and The Andy Griffith Show are/were widely considered some of the greatest shows that depict family life.
And were purely fictional.
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Would you rather live in a modern day Mayberry
Would that be the southern town that actually has black people in it?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:32 pm to LemmyLives
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You clearly haven't been married to some of our ex-wives. But thanks for playing.
You clearly do not understand the depth of this problem sir, you want to joke around, meanwhile the commies knew how to attack America and to go for the pillars of our foundation in order to make us fall. Ever hear of the 45 Communist Goals which a retired FBI undercover agent wrote about in a book in the 1950s called the Naked Communist?
He infiltered the Communist Party USA and here were there 45 stated goals, as entered into the Congressional Record in 1963. YOU DO THE MATH.
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.(see China)
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:32 pm to TTOWN RONMON
CONTINUED.....
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.(Pledge of Allegiance
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (See Dems)
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."(See the 60s junk called Art)
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.(Pledge of Allegiance
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States. (See Dems)
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."(See the 60s junk called Art)
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:33 pm to TTOWN RONMON
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.(They eventually co-opted the FBI it seems)
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.(see BLM & ANTIFA)
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
So, goal #40 is to destroy the family and bring forth easy divorce. BUT WHY? Commies want to control peoples minds, the best way to do that is to DIVIDE the peoples, they did that in Europe along socio economic lines via the Unions. Here they could not do that so they changed their plan of attack, you just do not understand you are in a war, nearly everyone of these goals has come to pass, and YOU DO NOT KNOW that easy divorce is a blight on our nation. LOL. Come on man.
We could fix this pretty easy. which ever party wants a divorce should automatically lose the kids and have to pay alimony, but no, the "Lawyers" who mostly are the ones running these State Houses and writing the laws in congress couldn't get rich off divorce then could they?
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.(They eventually co-opted the FBI it seems)
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.(see BLM & ANTIFA)
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
So, goal #40 is to destroy the family and bring forth easy divorce. BUT WHY? Commies want to control peoples minds, the best way to do that is to DIVIDE the peoples, they did that in Europe along socio economic lines via the Unions. Here they could not do that so they changed their plan of attack, you just do not understand you are in a war, nearly everyone of these goals has come to pass, and YOU DO NOT KNOW that easy divorce is a blight on our nation. LOL. Come on man.
We could fix this pretty easy. which ever party wants a divorce should automatically lose the kids and have to pay alimony, but no, the "Lawyers" who mostly are the ones running these State Houses and writing the laws in congress couldn't get rich off divorce then could they?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:34 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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And were purely fictional.
Do you think they created these out of thin air or based it on something?
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Would that be the southern town that actually has black people in it?
Interesting that you went straight to race. What would you consider a modern day Mayberry?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:41 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Do you think they created these out of thin air or based it on something?
The most effective propaganda is based on a kernel of truth.
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What would you consider a modern day Mayberry?
What would you consider a modern day Camelot?
How about a modern day Honilee?
Some shite is just made up out of thin air.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:44 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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What would you consider a modern day Camelot?
Actually America was referred to as Camelot in the 60s which even strengthens my point about that time period. Thanks for the help.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:06 pm to CMBears1259
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I find this hard to do sometimes because of her parenting decisions, but I usually keep it to myself, especially in front of the kids.
Same. I try as much as I can to keep it in a straight line with my daughters. I am aware of some things that she has done that I don't agree with, but I reconcile that with myself, because whatever I say (if I were to say it) will be misconstrued, twisted and manipulated, and used against me.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:26 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Actually America was referred to as Camelot in the 60s
No, it wasn't. The Kennedy Administration was referred to as "Camelot".
"Camelot was first publicly used by Jackie in a Life magazine interview, after she invited the journalist Theodore H. White to the White House just days after the assassination. White was best known for his Making of a President series about Kennedy’s election.
In the interview, Jackie referred to the Broadway musical, Camelot, which Kennedy apparently listened to often. The musical had been written by his Harvard schoolmate Alan Jay. Jackie quoted the ending lines of the final song:
“Don’t let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief, shining moment that was known as Camelot. There’ll be great presidents again… but there will never be another Camelot.”
LINK
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strengthens my point
No, it strengthens my point that some shite is based purely on fantasy and has no basis in reality. The 50s and 60s were FILLED with civil strife, not to mention Cold War hysteria. These allusions to fantasy were just designed to steer Americans' attention away from the problems of the day. The worse the problems, the more idyllic the fantasies must be to provide the diversion.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:20 pm to Florida_Man1981
I'm wondering why there wasn't a crazy spouse exception here.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:50 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Other religions have guidelines for moral codes
Don’t be vague. Which religion would you like to discuss?
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Everyone thinks their faith is the true faith
Wow, you know what everybody in the entire world thinks. Sounds like you believe you are God.
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Otherwise your gamble is simply my religion is right and everyone else’s is wrong
That is exactly right and it is not hard to come to that conclusion if you have done any time of investigation.
Talking about the five major religions in the world the way to salvation is so completely different that only “ONE” can be correct. Just one. Of course you can say all are wrong but only one can be correct.
Christian= Jesus was the son of God.
Budidism= major strand of Buddhism is agonist.
Hinduism= believe in hundreds of thousands Gods.
Islam= believe the worst sin one can commit is to believe in the trinity.
Judaism= do not believe Jesus was the son of God.
Your objections are very common. Can you be more specific?
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:10 pm to LRB1967
quote:totally different topic. are you this dumb? the OP has a valid point yet none of you can even stay on topic, much less have a conversation about it.
There are a lot of things that do not function as God intended because we are flawed human beings with a sin nature. We have hope though. Jesus will return and we will spend eternity with Him.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:12 pm to The Maj
quote:you probably can't tell, but the OP didn't say anything about stoning or killing anyone over divorce. what the OP failed to consider is how dumb most of you are. your comment has nothing to do with the context of the OP. stupidity and selfishness destroys every civilization.
Every single day...
You go ahead and cast the first stone though...
Posted on 3/31/24 at 10:04 am to faraway
Everyone on here justifying living in sin through frivolous divorce - what are your thoughts on gay marraige?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 10:05 am to Bryno1960
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The Bible also says in Romans 3:21-24
But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses and the prophets long ago. We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are. Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins.
To me, Jesus death, burial and resurrection trumps the Mosaic law.
Luke is in the new testament but keep cherry picking sins to make yourself feel good.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 12:33 pm to Florida_Man1981
John 8:3–11 (NASB95): 3 The scribes and the Pharisees ?*brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court,
4 they ?*said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act.
5 “Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?”
6 They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground.
7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”
8 Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9 When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court.
10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?”
11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”
While I agree with the sentiment of your post, I remind you that it is the Holy Spirit of God who brings conviction upon us sinners. We are called by the Lord to be an example of what true repentance looks like. By our fruits- not our judgment.
4 they ?*said to Him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act.
5 “Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?”
6 They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground.
7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”
8 Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9 When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court.
10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?”
11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”
While I agree with the sentiment of your post, I remind you that it is the Holy Spirit of God who brings conviction upon us sinners. We are called by the Lord to be an example of what true repentance looks like. By our fruits- not our judgment.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 12:40 pm to Florida_Man1981
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Wish we were still a Christian nation that respected the institution of marriage.
Anything outside of the dogma of the Holy See is apostasy.
Let's get everyone going to mass first then worry about secular divorce. Why do we allow this protestantism movement to continue?
Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:29 pm to Florida_Man1981
Yeah that was written back when people lived to be maybe 30.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 2:34 pm to Florida_Man1981
OP watches Footloose and sees himself in the John Lithgow role.
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