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re: No one else thinks the border is being used as a campaign stunt?

Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2480 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:11 pm to
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They have been offered asylum in Mexico. They refuse to take the offer. What does that tell you about them


It tells me they don’t trust the Mexican government to keep them safe from being followed from Central America. Or it tells me they want really badly to be in America. Why didn’t Jews fleeing persecution stop somewhere close like Iceland?
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:12 pm to
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its really strange that migrants think they can just walk into country.




They don’t though, that’s why they’re coming to apply for asylum


You are too dumb to talk to.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14395 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:13 pm to
Ever hear that "beggars can't be choosers"?

Not sometime lefties like to hear. They want everything their way.
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
2480 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:14 pm to
I’m just pointing out that it’s not against the law as some have proposed
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:17 pm to
They are trying to get the military to cut lose on them for bad press. They dont care about endangering those people one bit or endangering our border patrol agents and military.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:18 pm to
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yes it is/was a political stunt; one manufactured by progressives like Soros


That's not true and you repeatedly saying it doesn't make it true.

Why would progressives give Trump the perfect platform for these campaign histrionics?


It's leftist, not progressives.

leftist did this because they are too stupid to see that 1/1024% means not Native American.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22730 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:18 pm to
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They’re weeks away. We already have armed military and national guard at the border.


If the objective is to keep them out effectively, do you think it is better to send troops to the border now or when they arrive?

Doing so now would be more effective in getting the message across and actually prevent violence from occurring, no?

Lastly, nearly everything you see in politics is a stunt to some extent, including the organization of this caravan.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:19 pm to
On larger caravans traveling longer distance?

You link proof.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15006 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:21 pm to
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He wants chirren to die, he's gonna put them in cages after ripping them from their freedom seeking parents, that's not what this country was founded on!


The country was founded on laws, and the UN, which initiated the whole human rights deal, is based on laws.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58493 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:22 pm to
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told to commit the war crime of killing someone with a rock in their hand

This. Only Israel can kill people with rocks in their hand
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Twice, Iraq and Afghanistan, back to Afghanistan in Feb.


So you are comparing a small deployment on the border of the US for a limited event to a scheduled overseas deployment?

Don't call anyone a moron, it has too much irony.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:37 pm to
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It is highly unlikely that the group comes in guns blazing and/or tries to evade border patrol. Especially when the US knows exactly where they are


You know what people like you overlook and I haven't seen the argument from your side referring to this asylum scenario - what happens to the ones, and let's remember up to 80% of the walkers have been designated men under the age of 35, what happens to them when they get denied entry even to ask for asylum? You think they are going to say "oh well, wait to next time" and do a 180 and go back to where they came from?

Hell no they're not. They are going to be the next wave of illegal border crossers. You know it and I know it, the only difference being you won't admit it. Therefore, the more personnel we have on the border in order to avoid such a fiasco the better.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:42 pm to
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You think they are going to say "oh well, wait to next time" and do a 180 and go back to where they came from?

Hell no they're not. They are going to be the next wave of illegal border crossers. You know it and I know it, the only difference being you won't admit it. Therefore, the more personnel we have on the border in order to avoid such a fiasco the better.


You’re showing your ignorance here. You clearly don’t understand how the asylum process works. Right or wrong, there is a process. You should read about it if you’re going to argue so fiercely about this whole thing.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84643 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:44 pm to
So you are saying the denied won't attempt illegal entrance?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:54 pm to
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So you are saying the denied won't attempt illegal entrance?


Do you understand how long the asylum process takes? The military is going to be standing around for months on end.

What do you think they’re going to do? Tell me
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84643 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:55 pm to
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What do you think they’re going to do? Tell me
Meh that wasn't the point of my comment.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:58 pm to
Dude, it’s not illegal to seek asylum. This supposedly dangerous caravan is going to get to the border and ask for asylum processing. Then they will get pushed through the system, which takes ages. Like I said, right or wrong, that’s how it works.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:16 pm to
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it’s not illegal to seek asylum


What might their basis for asylum be? You don't get it just because you ask for it.

There must be a well founded fear of prosecution for one of five things: your race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or your political opinion.

Economic hardship isn't a qualifier.

Those guys don't expect to get asylum they expect to cross the border illegally and blend into the millions of criminals that came before them.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:16 pm to
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They have said that they want to let every person who wants to come into the country -- come in?

Do you?

Are you an idiot, or do you just play one on this board?

You caught me. I think we should let everyone in without any selection or vetting.





Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84643 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Dude, it’s not illegal to seek asylum.
So.
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