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NJ's high capacity magazine ban; tomorrow owning one will be a felony
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:55 am
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Gov. Phil Murphy (D) signed the ban on magazines holding over 10 rounds in June, and it takes effect December 11.
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The ban was challenged in court after it was signed, but last week the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit upheld the ban. Breitbart News reported that a three-judge panel from the Third Circuit voted 2 to 1 to uphold the ban.
Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, was the panel judge who voted against the ban. He argued that the ruling treats the Second Amendment as protecting second-class rights, unequal with other rights. He wrote, “The Second Amendment is an equal part of the Bill of Rights. We must treat the right to keep and bear arms like other enumerated rights, as the Supreme Court insisted in Heller. We may not water it down and balance it away based on our own sense of wise policy.”
Looks like another appeals court WANTS to get taken to the woodshed.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:58 am to Wtodd
It's hilarious that these people think this will stop crime. VT shooting happened with pistols and 10 rounds mags
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:59 am to upgrayedd
And the a-hole in Parkland stopped and reloaded......wait for it......just a little longer.......6 fricking times......that's right, he reloaded 6 times.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:59 am to upgrayedd
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It's hilarious that these people think this will stop crime. VT shooting happened with pistols and 10 rounds mags
It seems like this will effectively outlaw a bunch of fairly common handguns as well. Most full sized 9mm have a capacity of 10+
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:00 pm to fallguy_1978
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Most full sized 9mm have a capacity of 10+
Subcompacts are generally 10 rounds too; only the compacts are less than 10
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:02 pm to fallguy_1978
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It seems like this will effectively outlaw a bunch of fairly common handguns as well. Most full sized 9mm have a capacity of 10+
It won't outlaw the guns, just the mags
Ironically, all this does is give gun companies more money
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:06 pm to fallguy_1978
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It seems like this will effectively outlaw a bunch of fairly common handguns as well. Most full sized 9mm have a capacity of 10+
But the left isn't trying to outlaw guns...
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:08 pm to upgrayedd
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all this does is give gun companies more money
Many already sell California compliant models. If the NJ laws don't differ (and I don't think they do regarding magazine restrictions), the same Cali compliant models are ok in NJ.
Buy a gun safe and keep your high capacity mags in it. If nobody knows about them, you'll never be asked about them. If you ever need them to defend your life, the legal charges afterwards will be worth it.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:09 pm to upgrayedd
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ronically, all this does is give gun companies more money
Yep. Everyone will have to run out and buy mags that will turn their Glock 19 into a 10 shot.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:09 pm to Wtodd
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And the a-hole in Parkland stopped and reloaded......wait for it......just a little longer.......6 fricking times......that's right, he reloaded 6 times.
If only the police officer assigned to that school had used one of those opportunities to enter the building and confront the a-hole.
#BrowardCowards
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:11 pm to PsychTiger
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If only the police officer assigned to that school had used one of those opportunities to enter the building and confront the a-hole. #BrowardCowards
I agree about the coward part but why didn't anyone tackle this fricking nutjob during any of his reloads?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:12 pm to Wtodd
It's not about stopping crime, it's about creating precedent to ban certain firearms.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:13 pm to fallguy_1978
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Most full sized 9mm have a capacity of 10+
My compact 45 holds 13
Full size 40 hold 16
Full size 9mm holds 19
Pistol mags aren't cheap either
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:13 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:16 pm to TheHarahanian
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Many already sell California compliant models. If the NJ laws don't differ (and I don't think they do regarding magazine restrictions), the same Cali compliant models are ok in NJ.
Right, but I'm saying that now these gun owners have to go out and buy new compliant mags. Depending on what type of gun you have, they range between $15-$30 a piece. NJ has a population of 9 mill and 11% own guns so that's about 1 mil people who own guns. Let's say 1/3rd of those people own guns that are subject to this new law and let's say they all buy new mags at $15 a piece. That's about $15 million going to the gun industry just from this legislation.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:18 pm to upgrayedd
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NJ has a population of 9 mill and 11% own guns so that's about 1 mil people who own guns. Let's say 1/3rd of those people own guns that are subject to this new law and let's say they all buy new mags at $15 a piece. That's about $15 million going to the gun industry just from this legislation.
The thugs in Camden and Newark will surely destroy theirs and buy new ones.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:20 pm to upgrayedd
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buy new compliant mags
Would not participate. The magazines I have now have no problems or defects.
Thinking on it, I wouldn't buy a Cali compliant firearm either, so my opinion is moot.
This post was edited on 12/10/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:21 pm to fallguy_1978
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It seems like this will effectively outlaw a bunch of fairly common handguns as well. Most full sized 9mm have a capacity of 10+
cost gun makers about 2 cents to make a larger plug in magazines to reduce the capacity to meet this yet everyone must buy new mags to comply.
gun makers will make bank and no criminal will be afraid of having an illegal magazine while committing crimes
but passing these laws makes them feels good inside
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:25 pm to keakar
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cost gun makers about 2 cents to make a larger plug in magazines to reduce the capacity to meet this yet everyone must buy new mags to comply
Pretty sure they have to cut down the springs to make this work.
If you're entrepreneurial, start selling (completely legal) full size springs in NJ. Conversion is just a matter of pulling the block in the mag and swapping springs.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:26 pm to Wtodd
Glad I don't live in Jersey.....
If I did I would gladly become a felon. If they came and tried to take my magazines, there would be blood.
If I did I would gladly become a felon. If they came and tried to take my magazines, there would be blood.
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