re: Nine Other Current And Former Mexican Government Officials Indicted With Sinaloa Governor

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Your position is that the CIA wasn’t picking winners in the cartel wars?

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Picking winners is very different than creating cartels or drug demand.

I’m not in favor of either.

But the CIA didn’t create the cartels or drug demand.

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Picking winners is very different than creating cartels or drug demand.

I’m not in favor of either.

But the CIA didn’t create the cartels or drug demand.

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As early as the 80s the CIA and DEA were choosing which cartels were going to be backed and which were selected to be eliminated dominate based on their willingness to work with us on various issues. Based on interviews I've heard from former CIA personnel like John Kirakou they didnt care at all about the domestic consequences, only how it impacted their ability to achieve their foreign policy aims in the various markets they were focused on whether it was Afghanistan where we were protecting poppy farms or Columbia where we were worried about communist rebels.

And I would argue that the cartels we chose to be winners then flooded certain markets with new products like crack (black inner cities) and fentanyl (rural areas) in effect creating new markets where none previously existed.

Decapitating the cartels regardless of how they became dominant in and of itself will not fix the larger domestic issues surrounding drug abuse, but I understand it as a tool in a larger exercise intended to achieve specific political aims in Mexico or Central and America. To win the battle on drug abuse will take more than bombs and special forces raids unfortunately.

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Sounds like one or more of the big fish that have already been caught flipped. The problem is that if you are helping to lead a cartel faction, what bigger fish can you flip on?

What about the whole government in the region is all in my pocket and I have means to prove it? Yeah, that will get you the chance to see daylight some day….

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El Mayo is THE big fish and he turned himself in months ago. He has been paying all of them for decades. I would bet this is his doing. Betcha he knows all the ones in Mexico City as well and has receipts.

I wonder if we will hear about those politicians on our side of the border. Its naive to think they give 100s of millions to politicians south of the border and none in their primary market.

And you can bet ole Carlos Slim is involved. He owns the largest bank, he owns the telephone company as well as others in SW US and all of central America. He is the single largest benefactor of an open criminalized border.