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re: Newt: an absolutely rigged election in 2020

Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:58 pm to
Here's the entire post you're responding to. You mistakenly missed a few pieces..


"Well I don't know if it was rigged or not, but I do know this. President Trump's hand picked and personally vetted United States Attorney General, as well as his hand picked and personally vetted Director of the FBI, not only isn't investigating this "crime of the century", but they haven't said word one about it.

Not only that, but the actual victim of this most heinous act, The President of the United States of America hasn't called for a criminal investigation.

We'll all just make of that what we will"
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Ok. Moving on...You wanted a link? There is no "link" because there's no investigation.


I asked GROK this question... Is the current DOJ investigating Trump's claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen?


Here's the answer..

Current DOJ Stance: There’s no public indication that the DOJ, under its current leadership as of June 2025, has reopened or initiated a new investigation specifically into Trump’s claims of a stolen election. The DOJ’s focus has shifted under the current administration. For instance, recent reports highlight the DOJ pursuing cases related to alleged noncitizen voting, with charges filed against a few individuals (e.g., two Ukrainian green card holders, an Iraqi man, and a Jamaican woman) for illegal voting in 2020 and 2024 elections. These cases align with Trump’s broader narrative about voter fraud but don’t directly address his specific 2020 election claims.



Now if you want to believe there's some super double secret DOJ investigation of the 2020 election results, be my guest.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:00 pm
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
753 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Dems got what they wanted, but they have paid a high price and will continue to suffer from the ideological idiocy they enacted.

May they be rejected at the ballot box for 200 years.. The entire planet would benefit.

Unfortunately however it was too sophisticated for the Democrat in the street - and had to be done by a foreign power who immediately took power and control of the Administration
Posted by Average_Comments
ATX
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131703 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:03 pm to
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When you're dealing with an evaluation of the time in question, trying to give a legal analysis, you are bound by the rulings of the time being analyzed.

Otherwise Louisiana could prosecute a lot of people for abortions that happened until June 2022/Dobbs
None of which has a thing to do with the points at hand, or with "fallacy of hindsight."
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:04 pm to
Fair enough. You would have to grant me, it is quite difficult to discern "thoughtful response" here.

If there are examples of a maximum number of possible votes being exceeded, I would say that is alarming. However, in this situation, those numbers are nowhere close.

I'm not sure hypotheticals are enough to warrant accusation.
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
753 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Because government entities or the courts would not allow investigation does not mean there was not fraud or at least extreme negligence favorable to one side.
just as the Norm Eisen war on American courts and Americans shows coordination of courts based on politics.

STINKING ROTTEN TRAITORS running our courts
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
753 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:05 pm to
and why did Norm Eisen disappear into the dual-citizen administration?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452743 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

Now if you want to believe there's some super double secret DOJ investigation of the 2020 election results, be my guest.


Those secret indictments have been tolling the SOL since 2021 or 2022, brother.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131703 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

there's no investigation
Link?

Let's be clear.
The only way one can say definitively the DOJ is not investigating a topic is if the DOJ says it is not investigating a topic/entity/individual.
LINK THAT DOJ ANNOUNCEMENT!

Sans that, as the DOJ does not routinely reveal investigations until charges are prepared, neither you nor anyone else here knows what the DOJ is "not investigating."
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
1234 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:12 pm to
quote:


You can throw as many temper tantrums as you want but it doesn't make me wrong
lol. You're correct. You being wrong is what makes you wrong. But more importantly you being completely dishonest rhetorically is the real issue. Creating an environment that intentionally facilitates Prime is just as much fraud as the actual fraud you stupid frick
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
15097 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:15 pm to
Man you just need to frickin go the frick away
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452743 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Sans that, as the DOJ does not routinely reveal investigations until charges are prepared


Not in this administration

Biden pardons

Taylor and Nielsen

Epstein

Letitia James

J6 FBI agents

Impersonaltion of Susie Wiles

James Comey

Andrew Cuomo

Lab Leak Investigation

Handling of Covid

etc
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25486 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Bad example. TONS of evidence OJ did it.


And there's tons of evidence for widespread, deliberate voter fraud. You choose to pretend that it doesn't exist for whatever reason.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452743 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

But more importantly you being completely dishonest rhetorically is the real issue

How am I doing this?

By asking for evidence?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131703 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

you being completely dishonest rhetorically is the real issue
Unfortunate truth.

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"The law was the problem more than the facts."

But the FACT is LAWS were broken.

"Just because you disagree (because your team was on the wrong side of the ruling) doesn't make it fraud."

No, the FACT that LAWS were BROKEN and the system rubber stamped the result makes it fraud.

"No this is just a bunch of sore loser-based opinions b/c your team lost."

My "team" is America and the American republic. Indeed, my team lost.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:23 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452743 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

And there's tons of evidence for widespread, deliberate voter fraud. You choose to pretend that it doesn't exist for whatever reason.


Why was none of this presented in the dozens of court cases?

Numerous attorneys lost their license and some admitted they had no evidence.

Why have 2 Trump DOJs refused to act on this evidence?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19858 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Link?

Let's be clear.
The only way one can say definitively the DOJ is not investigating a topic is if the DOJ says it is not investigating a topic/entity/individual.
LINK THAT DOJ ANNOUNCEMENT!

Sans that, as the DOJ does not routinely reveal investigations until charges are prepared, neither you nor anyone else here knows what the DOJ is "not investigating.


Got it.

Look man if you need to believe the DOJ is or will investigate The President's claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen. That's ok by me.

But if they were investigating it. You don't believe they would or could keep that a secret do you? You couldn't possibly believe that. The way this administration craves light and sound, if it wasn't leaked they would announce it to the heavens.

You can have the last word.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
1099 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

Is there anyone who actually believes that it wasn’t rigged?


Yes. Only most of the Republican Congress and at least 5 SC Justices.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452743 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

But the FACT is LAWS were broken.

quote:

No, the FACT that LAWS were BROKEN and the system rubber stamped the result makes it fraud.


Me: Courts ruled one way on the law

You: That's fraud!

You have not defended your position in any way other than repeating your conclusory statements and ignoring arguments supporting it other than repeating those conclusions (see above)

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19858 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:26 pm to
I chuckled. Have a Monday afternoon upvote.
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