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Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This case is about what happened on the date of the incident. Talking about anything else is largely irrelevant.
And this thread is about people not jumping to conclusions because of things said outside of a courtroom, and because often times evidence isn't reported by the media. Talking about anything else is largely irrelevant.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:43 pm to Azkiger
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Because in the other Arbery threads I've seen you post in you were rigidly opposed to the possibility, even though all signs pointed to there being a pretty damn good possibility that things were stolen based off the property owners actions alone.
Glad to see you making shite up.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:44 pm to the808bass
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Glad to see you making shite up.
Welcome to the party.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What immediate knowledge did the McMichaels have of his intent?
I'm not sure, I'm waiting to see the trail before I decide.
Or you can just save me the time and tell me, since you clearly know.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:45 pm to TOSOV
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Ok...so now tell us what you would do if you actually see someone rifling thru yours or a neighbors car or attempting to steal it.
The McMichaels did not see him rifling through their car or their neighbors car.
What I actually did when a car cased my cul de sac and then continued driving up and down each street in the subdivision was get in my car and get a description of their car and call the police. And then go back home.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:47 pm to the808bass
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The McMichaels did not see him rifling through their car or their neighbors car.
The son did confront Arbery on English's property two weeks prior, and during that exchange, according to a neighbor, Arbery reached into his waistband and threatened the son.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:47 pm to Azkiger
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That isn't true. Georgia law, at that time, allowed for citizens arrest for felonies that you thought were fleeing.
You can keep pretending there’s no case law on the requirements for a citizens arrest. We will remain in normal land.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:49 pm to Azkiger
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The son did confront Arbery on English's property two weeks prior, and during that exchange, according to a neighbor, Arbery reached into his waistband and threatened the son.
And?
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:49 pm to the808bass
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You can keep pretending there’s no case law on the requirements for a citizens arrest. We will remain in normal land.
So your argument is that case law on the requirements for a citizens arrest nullifies the Georgia law classifying entering a residence with the intent to steal?
Because all that post argues is that Georgia sees the act of entering a residence with the intent to steal as a felony.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:50 pm to the808bass
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The McMichaels did not see him rifling through their car or their neighbors car.
So no one saw him come out of the house he shouldn't have been in?
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What I actually did when a car cased my cul de sac and then continued driving up and down each street in the subdivision was get in my car and get a description of their car and call the police. And then go back home.
So call the cops and tell them so random black guy was going in the home is the only option I guess...
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:51 pm to Azkiger
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So your argument is that case law on the requirements for a citizens arrest nullifies the Georgia law classifying entering a residence with the intent to steal?
No. I’m arguing that the case law establishes the conditions for a citizen’s arrest and what “direct knowledge” of a crime means. What it’s clear it does not mean is “a guy running by your house.”
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:51 pm to the808bass
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And?
And that's a decent comparison to someone digging through a car. He was somewhere he knew he shouldn't be.
Arbery was told he wasn't allowed on the property, then he continues to go on said property.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:53 pm to TOSOV
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So no one saw him come out of the house he shouldn't have been in?
The McMichaels didn’t. Which wouldn’t have necessarily helped them. But it certainly doesn’t help them that they didn’t.
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is the only option.
This is known as a “false choice” fallacy. Or as my grampa said, “Them ain’t the only two choices.”
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:53 pm to Azkiger
He was just on his way to college classes, stop saying he was stealing.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:53 pm to the808bass
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No. I’m arguing that the case law establishes the conditions for a citizen’s arrest and what “direct knowledge” of a crime means.
So why are you quoting a line from me where I said that Georgia law sees entering a residence with the intent to steal as a felony?
Jesus Christ you're dense. Just because I'm arguing that it's possible one of the criteria of the citizen's arrest law was met, doesn't meant that I'm arguing that all the others are also met.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:54 pm to Bulldogblitz
Coming from church, and on his way to his Gammie's.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:54 pm to Azkiger
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Arbery was told he wasn't allowed on the property, then he continues to go on said property.
What are you arguing? That he might have been on the property prior so they could effect a citizen’s arrest? Or are you arguing the morality of it again?
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:54 pm to Azkiger
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Jesus Christ you're dense. Just because I'm arguing that it's possible one of the criteria of the citizen's arrest law was met, doesn't meant that I'm arguing that all the others are also met.
What a fig.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:56 pm to Azkiger
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The son did confront Arbery on English's property two weeks prior, and during that exchange, according to a neighbor, Arbery reached into his waistband and threatened the son.
So what happened next?
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