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re: New USDA study: Soda is the most common item bought with food stamps

Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:19 pm to
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Part of the reason is because it's cheap. When you don't have a lot of money you end up buying cheap food. It's a vicious cycle hard to get out of. 2 or 3 liters of coke for the same price of milk.


Son: put down the bong, turn off the Michael Moore flick, and let the adults debate politics until your cranium has cleared of the fog.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Most of those you want to rip health care from aren't on food stamps.


I don't want to "rip" health care from anyone, but I do ask that they pay for it themselves. Sounds like they'll have no issues doing that.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:25 pm to
Duh... have you ever been in line when someone whips out their Louisiana Purchase card? Half the crap they're buying is junk food.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101442 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Part of the reason is because it's cheap. When you don't have a lot of money you end up buying cheap food. It's a vicious cycle hard to get out of. 2 or 3 liters of coke for the same price of milk.


Son: put down the bong, turn off the Michael Moore flick, and let the adults debate politics until your cranium has cleared of the fog.


Don't smoke, voted for Trump but I do volunteer in the community, donate to the homeless in New Orleans and this is what I see.
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:45 pm to
A 12 pack of Winn Dixie store brand soda costs $2 to $2.75 depending on the weekly ad price. Several thieves will come in and buy nothing BUT these drinks. They sell them in the hood for fitty cent a pop. They may have multiple carts full in one purchase, as well as, multiple EBT cards they are pullimg out to pay for it.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:46 pm to
When I didn't have a lot of money I don't recall thinking, "Huh-I guess I'll forgo milk and buy cokes, instead."

People are not forced to buy cokes over vegetables, legs and thighs, rice, etc.-all of which are cheap as hell.

People on government assistance buy and eat shite because they're allowed to, not because of any "vicious cycle." Your thought process removes any personal accountability from the equation.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:49 pm to
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In states where they have done this it was found that the expense of administrating drug tests was more expensive than taking away payments from people who flunked.



Doesn't mean it's a net loser. The people who flunked had to use when they knew they would be tested, AND not wait for their system to clear before applying.

In order to know if it works or not, you would need to know how many people stayed clean so they could apply and how many junkies were deterred from applying.

Doesn't mean the testing is worthwhile. Just means the statistic you're using is useless.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:54 pm to
Funny, all these posts. I certainly think the entire entitlement program is way over budgeted and has blown up under the Obama administration and needs to be reigned in. My post was not about that. It was about families making 16k a year, getting assistance and making poor choices based on lack of money.

Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:58 pm to
We agree on the entitlement programs, but lack of money=/=poor choices. At all.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 6:01 pm
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:01 pm to
Social welfare is a drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare. But by all means carry on with "Observations from the Winn Dixie Line."
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:04 pm to
LOL so now I get hit from the other side. You would feel stupid saying that if you ever met me.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:07 pm to
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Social welfare is a drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare.


That's true.

Which also means New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, etc. are the welfare states and flyover country is bankrolling the government.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34102 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:17 pm to
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Social welfare is a drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare. But by all means carry on with "Observations from the Winn Dixie Line."


Can we not complain about both? I have in this thread. This issue has elements of both.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
79243 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:19 pm to
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Duh... have you ever been in line when someone whips out their Louisiana Purchase card? Half the crap they're buying is junk food.




Is the Louisiana Purchase card paying for the junk? Or are they buying the junk with their own money and the other food with the card?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:19 pm to
How much was paid for this study?

Anyone in line behind a recipient could have told them that.
Posted by Mrs. Amaro
Uptown Shreveport
Member since Nov 2004
3660 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:22 pm to
Dumb arse fricking poor people. We should make them buy fresh produce, better for them and our agricultural interests.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
101442 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11021 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:27 pm to
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Do you actually believe collectivized agriculture works?

ETA: Have you ever done even simple garden work or owned productive property?


Yes I have worked in gardens before. I own property.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83713 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:32 pm to
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Verifiably not true.


Well you can't deny the first point... A hand job is a job, which means I likely created more jobs than Obama did in 8yrs
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83155 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:44 pm to
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Social welfare is a drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare. B

This is likely true. But it's hard to get angry at corporate welfare bc it's not as visible. We don't see it at the grocery. Also, it can be hard to differentiate between corporate welfare and legit and useful government investment. On top of that, if corporations are doing well then there is the idea that they'll hire people produce things and it can still be a net gain for the economy. Besides, these social welfare programs are all a boon to corporations (or other monied interests) anyway. As stated already, there are corporate and special interests in keeping the status quo regarding food stamps. Same thing with Section 8, same with immigration reform, same with drug war and prison reform, etc etc.
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