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re: New emails show Fauci was trying to slow play the J&J vaccine folks.

Posted on 6/4/21 at 6:44 am to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35870 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 6:44 am to
What is crazy in that thread is that Robert Kennedy, Jr becomes a fellow traveler with conservatives and those extremely critical of the lockdowns.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135576 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 6:58 am to
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Ok, so why no pause here?
Because there was no associated cluster or appearance of a cluster.

We know Sars-CoV-2 is associated with DIC. We know other vaccines are associated with rare thrombocytopenia. So the fact that 2°ITP is extremely rarely associated with the CV19 mRNA vaccines would not, in and of itself, have been a game changer.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18943 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 7:03 am to
Not being that guy but did they pause injecting the other chemicals after deaths occurred? Just a little pause to reflect or contemplate? Or just J&J?

Is J&J being injected again? I think yes.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135576 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 7:07 am to
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Not being that guy but did they pause injecting the other chemicals after deaths occurred?
Yeah, we quit using thalidomide as an antiemetic a while back
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18943 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 7:13 am to
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Yeah, we quit using thalidomide as an antiemetic a while back

You missed the point or wandered off-range for a minute. Not thinking thalidomide was used in J&J "vaccine"?

J&J paused.
Others, not paused.
Deaths.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13884 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 7:38 am to
NC- how much stock do you own in Pfizer and/or moderna?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37170 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 7:43 am to
Who said I took it for no reason?

It’s required for my work. Can’t get access to certain venues without it.

But nice try dickhead.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135576 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:56 am to
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NC- how much stock do you own in Pfizer and/or moderna?
Oh I made a boatload trading Moderna last year. None at present though.

Why?
Is Tigerdroppings a market mover?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135576 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:11 am to
quote:

You missed the point or wandered off-range for a minute. Not thinking thalidomide was used in J&J "vaccine"?
J&J paused.
Others, not paused.
Deaths.
Perhaps you missed the previous post?
quote:

Because there was no associated cluster or appearance of a cluster.


...Both AZ and J&J use whole virus rather than S-protein to confer immunity. That carries additional risks. Both generated more apparent thrombotic complications (clusters) early on. Those were feared to be mimicking the same (albeit far more frequent) thrombotic thrombocytopenia seen in CV19 infections. Hence the pause for safety analytics.

But J&J lagged significantly in timing of its rollout independent of any pause. So the OP is a bit off the mark.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44837 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:06 am to
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But J&J lagged significantly in timing of its rollout


With responses like in the OP from Fauci........I wonder why
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78246 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:13 am to
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J&J paused.
Others, not paused.
Deaths.


Why would they pause the others for the deaths associated with J&J?

Also why are you putting death at the end? The deaths were why J&J was paused.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135576 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:39 am to
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With responses like in the OP from Fauci........I wonder why
Because it takes longer to rollout a traditional vaccine. J&J achieved use authorization sooner than it anticipated.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28158 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:43 am to
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It’s required for my work. Can’t get access to certain venues without it.


Nakitomi plaza doesn't require it.

Yippee ky-yah mudda fucca
Posted by Steve Nebraska
Gooberville
Member since Jun 2021
59 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:04 pm to
If jandj took over fauchi loses money and he’s a money grabbing butthole
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33431 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:38 pm to
The J&J shot is an actual "vaccine" in the traditional sense.

If I'm forced to get the COVID shot, I will try to get the J&J.
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