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New COVID drugs - Full disclosure of conflicts of interests from CDC, NIH, Fauci, etc.

Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:21 am
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:21 am
No major securities deal can be made without full disclosure of ALL financial relationships of controlling parties. Doesn't mean relationships disqualify participation - but MUST be disclosed.

NIH and CDC's funding foundations have long-standing $100 million dollar-plus relationships with Big-Pharma companies.

Any therapeutic or preventative drug fast-tracked by the CDC, NIH, Fauci etc. should come with full disclosure. NOT saying they should not have a role in the selection process. But definitely saying that Pres Trump should demand full disclosure.

And yes, it bothered me that Fauci poo-pooed Hydroxychloroquine treatments in a press conference, and (in the same breath) hyped some Big Pharma drugs that are still in testing.

Full disclosure. Very fair.

Science Magazine article: "U.S. lawmakers want NIH and CDC foundations to say more about donors". Excerpt:
quote:

The CDC Foundation has come under fire in recent years for how it has handled corporate donations, and as a result has severed connections with some donors.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89545 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:29 am to
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And yes, it bothered me that Fauci poo-pooed Hydroxychloroquine treatments in a press conference, and (in the same breath) hyped some Big Pharma drugs that are still in testing.


Dr. Fauci's reputation does not support allegations of corruption. He could have made gillions in the private sector.

He's just guilty of being overly conservative. He never denied off-label use of HCQ. He consistently clarified that in clinical practice you have more flexibility than at his level. He has to go by "science" for any official pronouncement.

Some of the Fauci haters should probably see past this silly effort by the MSM to try to pit Fauci vs Trump. The same MSM that is bereft of credibility.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:33 am to
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He consistently clarified that in clinical practice you have more flexibility than at his level. He has to go by "science" for any official pronouncement.


this is 100% true. he has different thresholds for liability tolerance as the voice of the governments healthcare recommendations in this pandemic
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:38 am to
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Dr. Fauci's reputation does not support allegations of corruption. He could have made gillions in the private sector.
you're saying Fauci is ABOVE full disclosure? Particularly where the CDC/NIH Foundations have a clear history of getting very cozy with Big Pharma?

Are you THAT naive? Or do you believe we are
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 7:39 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21001 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:43 am to
Fauci and the other doctor seems very genuine and worried about the correct things. The press in this country is horrendous.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89545 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:43 am to
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you're saying Fauci is ABOVE full disclosure?


No.

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Particularly where the CDC Foundation has a clear history of getting very cozy with Big Pharma?


That's an institutional issue. The CDC is an organ of government. I'm all for 100% transparency.

The FDA has crossed the line from regulating Big Pharma to being their partner. I sued pharmaceutical and medical device companies.

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Are you THAT naive? Or do you believe we are


I categorically reject the notion there is ANY evidence that Anthony Fauci is personally corrupted or that such corruption interferes in his duties as a public health official. He has served SIX Presidents (4 R, 2 D). If you want to say he's too old, too conservative, been there too long? We can talk.

Suggesting he is putting the public at risk, knowingly, willingly to enrich himself or the CDC Foundation?

GTFO. I'm not going to let those kinds of smears pass unchallenged. ZERO EVIDENCE for this kind of bullshite. HE COULD HAVE MADE ZILLIONS OF DOLLARS - directly consulting for "Big Pharma." He's a wonk, a nerd, a lab rat. He is not a crook.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11186 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:45 am to

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Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:56 am to
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I categorically reject the notion there is ANY evidence that Anthony Fauci is personally corrupted
Haven't said that there IS any such evidence. But clearly hold that he (and the CDC) should go through full disclosure as to any drug that will receive the tacit endorsement of the US government.

And read the damn article on CDC Foundation's shady dealings - the magazine is a publication of AAAS - an association of 100,000 scientists.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Suggesting he is putting the public at risk, knowingly, willingly to enrich himself or the CDC Foundation?


Fauci is part of the Swamp. Did you read the gushing letter he wrote to Hillary Clinton?

I said that Fauci and the CDC Foundation should make full disclosure of any relationships that in any way relate to the COVID-19 epidemic efforts for therapeutic or preventative drugs. And they damn well should!!!

Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Haven't said that there IS any such evidence


Absolutely. Let’s not say we have any evidence of personal corruption. Instead, let’s explicitly call him part of the Swamp, and just imply he’s corrupt by pointing out all the allegedly shady things he’s connected to.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:04 pm to
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I said that Fauci and the CDC
Why do you keep referring to Fauci and "the CDC?" He doesn't work for the CDC.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123942 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:08 pm to
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it bothered me that Fauci poo-pooed Hydroxychloroquine treatments in a press conference, and (in the same breath) hyped some Big Pharma drugs that are still in testing
Didn't bother me a bit. He did not poo-poo it. He said definitive studies had yet to establish efficacy. That is 100% accurate.

Distribution and use in absence of proven treatment is not impeded (except in MI, and NV). At least the coming antivirals target viruses though. Regeneron's mAbs should definitely work. Convalescent sera Abs should help.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:09 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5911 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:14 pm to
Is the CDC "Foundation" the same as the CDC itself?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19983 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:20 pm to
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And yes, it bothered me that Fauci poo-pooed Hydroxychloroquine treatments in a press conference, and (in the same breath) hyped some Big Pharma drugs that are still in testing.


This crap is just as bothersome as the drivel coming out of the left (in and at much higher volume).

This guy is not your family doctor. Regardless of his personal opinion (and he is also on record saying he would prescribe it), his position is not one where he can be shooting from the hip and telling doctors to give it a try.

There is lots of stuff in all this to be frustrated by. This is WAY down the list and just makes you look silly.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5911 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 2:23 pm to
Dr. Fauci speaks highly of Ted Ross. Who is Ted Ross? He is the head of the WHO, with no medical degree and a political history,
Ethiopian Health Minister from 2002 to
2012. Ted Ross also happens to be a member of
the Tigre People's Liberation Front. It
was founded as a communist revolutionary party.

Copy pasta from the Amazing Polly on YouTube.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 2:35 pm
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