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re: Netanyahu funded Hamas with $30 MILLION A MONTH, Kirk suspected stand down order on 10/7…

Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:26 am to
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21245 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:26 am to
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Hamas and the people that support them need to be destroyed. That’s all you had to write.


It would help if Israel stops funding them.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:28 am to
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What does that have to do with putting words in a dead mans mouth?



You are making the assertion at least note the words your are talking about.

What words?
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9291 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:29 am to
My son brought this up a couple days ago, he apparently listens to Candice.

So the million dollar question is, why do they need oct7 to happen before kicking Hamas arse?

Do we always have to wait for some sort of political will?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20423 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:29 am to
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Tying it to Charlie is retarded, and shitty.

People love drama more than truth and are immoral/amoral assholes just to get clicks.

You didn't address any of the underlying questions that Gaetz was posing.

Erase CK from the framing and the questions remain and nothing about asking those questions makes him or anyone else immoral or amoral.

What's immoral is being told you're anti-Semitic if you dare to ask why children are being starved and civilians forced to remain in war zone areas by the Israeli government.

What's immoral is being told you're anti-Semitic if you ask how its possible in a nation the size of New Jersey for no military response to occur for 6 hours. They knew an attack was underway instantly, Israel is a police state monitored by checkpoints, cameras and drones 24/7 and there were military units hours if not minutes away that could've been deployed.

I'm not anti-Semitic. I've never wished ill on any Jewish man outside of Jeffrey Epstein who wasn't even Israeli. I just don't want AIPAC running congress, setting US domestic or foreign policy and I sure don't want to be fighting their wars for them while we shovel foreign aid to them for zero tangible benefit to the US.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12084 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:30 am to
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What does that have to do with putting words in a dead mans mouth?


Did you watch it?

The whole video talks about how we are conditioned to never speak an ill word against Israel, because whoever does will be labeled antisemitic. That shuts the argument down right there. There is not further discussion as to the validity of the statement. It’s done.

No nation is perfect. But, they have conditioned us to never speak out against them. It’s not normal.

Could this have had anything to do with Charlie’s assassination? I don’t know, but, over the last five years , I’ve learned that the world is a much darker, evil place than I ever thought possible.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12084 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:32 am to
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What's immoral is being told you're anti-Semitic if you dare to ask why children are being starved and civilians forced to remain in war zone areas by the Israeli government.

What's immoral is being told you're anti-Semitic if you ask how it’s possible in a nation the size of New Jersey for no military response to occur for 6 hours. They knew an attack was underway instantly, Israel is a police state monitored by checkpoints, cameras and drones 24/7 and there were military units hours if not minutes away that could've been deployed.


Tide06 gets it…
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2767 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:32 am to
There absolutely was a stand down order. You can't tell me Israeli intelligence didn't know what was coming.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14671 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:32 am to
Israel wasn't funding Hamas, they were allowing funds from Qatar to get into Gaza as a means to appease the Palestinians.

Regarding Kirk, the comments everyone keeps citing as him "turning on Israel" are taken from a Patrick Bet David podcast in October of 2023, very shortly after 10/7.

the ethnic cleansing comments are taken totally out of context. he said Israel will be accused of ethnic cleansing when they go apeshit in Gaza.

Kirk did speculate how such a massive security failure could occur, and hypothesized about a stand down order.

Gaetz is just looking to make his name in the Candace Owens & Tucker. space.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21245 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:33 am to
It 100% had something to do with Kirk’s murder. They’ll have you believe some tranny loving queer did it by himself though!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296388 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:33 am to
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You are making the assertion at least note the words your are talking about.


Kirk asked questions just like we all did, but he still fully supported Israel by his own words. The latest fairy tales that Kirk was turning on Israel is wrong.

Gaetz and other dipshits need to provide evidence and stop making a living off of Kirks name.


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:34 am to
These were Charlie's words on the matter. I don't think Matt Gaetz misrepresented them. I'm sure if Matt did misrepresent Charlie's words it's not intentional and he would be the first to correct himself.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296388 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:35 am to
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The whole video talks about how we are conditioned to never speak an ill word against Israel, b


Youre listening to influencers who are making up myths for $$$.

Stop doing that.

Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14671 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:35 am to
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Gaetz and other dipshits need to provide evidence and stop making a living off of Kirks name


their evidence is two year old comments taken out of context and the reporting of far left, Al Jazeera funded Max Blumenthal.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21245 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:35 am to
He was taking a hard turn on Israel. If you are too lazy to go find the multiple videos then that’s on you. Also, it’s no secret that he couldn’t stand Netanyahu.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162680 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:36 am to
Candace may be unpopular and odd at seeking attention stories, batshit at times like Loomer...

But Candace has a receipt of a letter of CK ordering a DOGE like sweep of TPUSA----appointing a new CFO Sept 2, 2025. What was the Hampton's meeting about?

Candace and others have insinuated that Charlie was blacklisted from Fox News for a while after cozying up to Tucker. CK was in the middle a bridge-- and didn't like huge inputs of pumps of monies and where it went.

It got too big at the very least and CK was concerned while enjoying the spoils of the job-BUT worked his arse off and put God first.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12084 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:37 am to
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Youre listening to influencers who are making up myths for $$$.

Stop doing that.


The video was from a guy in Congress, shot in 1987. It was well before the time of influencers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296388 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:38 am to
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He was taking a hard turn on Israel.


No, Thats what influencers are feeding you.

He still fully supported Israel, his own words.

Instead of reading what others say Kirk was doing, read Kirks own words.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:39 am to
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Kirk asked questions just like we all did, but he still fully supported Israel by his own words. The latest fairy tales that Kirk was turning on Israel is wrong.


But these are not Matt Gaetz' words. Specfically his words were:

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Charlie Kirk suspected there was a stand down order allowing Oct 7 as a pretext to ethnically cleanse Gaza.


I posted a video of Charlie saying exactly what Matt paraphrased here on the PBD podcast.

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Gaetz and other dipshits need to provide evidence and stop making a living off of Kirks name.


You should get more accurate with your accusations. Stop accusing people of things that did not happen.

I don't understand why you can't quote what Matt said then assess whether he is wrong and if so then criticize.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296388 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:41 am to
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I posted a video of Charlie saying exactly what Matt paraphrased here on the PBD podcast.


I can show you the direct quotes, yes he asked questions.

Did you read the rest of his comments?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 9:44 am to
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I can show you the direct quotes


That would be super helpful then everyone would have a better understanding of why Matt was promoting "drama more than truth and are immoral/amoral assholes just to get clicks".


quote:

Did you read the rest of his comments?



There were no comments directly from Matt in that tweet. It was a video. The only part of the video with CK in it was the first 30 seconds and last 10 seconds.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 9:51 am
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