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Need some help with my Covid research

Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:05 pm
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:05 pm
Having a hard time finding what I think are key stats.

1. What was the pre-vaccination IFR by age group? Meaning what was IFR before the vaccine was available.

2. What is the current known IFR for Omicron?

3. Are kids getting omicron more than they did delta and OG Covid?

4. What is the hospitalization rate for kids (say under 16 or 18) over all during all of COVID?

And now for anecdotes. What was your COVID infection on a scale from 1-10 with 10 being holy shite that was bad, and 0 being I was asymptomatic.

If you know the above stats off top of your head, though, please share. Or give links.

Or tell me to frick off, as I expect. Thanks.

This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:08 pm to
The problem with collecting Covid data that's truly meaningful is that in pretty much doesn't exist. This is by design.

You ask about hospitalizations - but there's no credible data on hospitalizations. The CDC has gamed data collection up so wildly it's all meaningless if you're seriously trying to "study" C-19.

Same for deaths. Same for cases.

It's all meaningless, and like I said before - by design.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:10 pm to
All my sophomoric mind knows is there seems to always be stark contrasts between foreign numbers and US numbers. Somebody’s lying and I have a feeling I know who is.

Edit:

January 2020, before it was supposed to be here, I had the worse and wettest and longest duration URI I have every had in my 55 years (at the time). I will go to my grave believing it was CO-19. I was scared I was gonna die several times throughout the ordeal and my wife said I often struggled breathing during the night and she was very worried as well. Score : 6/10 - unconfirmed COVID

Dec 2020 : Lost sense of smell, taste and had a fever for one day only. Was given the Bam Bam infusion. It was a 2/10 sickness at the most before and after the infusion. Fatigue lasted about 10 days and that was the thing that slowed me down from normal life.

August 2021 : One day only loss of taste . Tight chest . No fever. No lethargy this time. Lasted about 5 days. I didn’t take an infusion because I wanted to beat it 100% on my own this time. There may or may not be medical soundness to that, but it was my rationale. About a 2/10 this time also.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:42 pm
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5176 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:11 pm to
6 people in my home with me, wife and kids. From the very beginning never wore masks, never social distanced, never sheltered in place, visited/vacationed in 3 different states multiple times. Out all people in the house me and my wife lost taste and smell in October 2020 for about two weeks. That’s it. Been to Tennessee twice, Florida three times including the Keys and Louisiana twice. Live in Georgia.

Also never tested or got clot shots.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:13 pm
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:11 pm to
Look at this. This is why I say I have trouble with research. When you google you get articles like this, essentially promoting the vaccine. But they don’t break down deaths in 1000 by age. Because that would make it seem like Covid isn’t a big deal for people in most age groups.

CNN LINK
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:12 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9429 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:13 pm to
Two months ago and it was 1, a bad cold, not a flu in severity

All I know is that a lot of hospitals are at or below 50% staff even though 100% vaxxed and boosted. They got it at Christmas parties
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6463 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:18 pm to
The first 5 days after my positive test were like a 2, very mild cold.

Day 5 to 9 was like a 6 on your scale. High fever with fatigue. I didn't want to leave the bed and I didn't.

Never felt like I was headed for hospital but I was sick.

This was May 2021 when not much Covid was around.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:23 pm to
It really is simple;
Republican President in office-shut everything down, they are incompetent

Democrat President in Office- expand voting privileges to every person in the US regardless of status and Build Back Better- the ultimate money laundering/ crony capitalism setup
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:29 pm to
I've been tested twice...one came back positive.

Guess how many times I was asked if I was vaccinated (I am not) prior to testing.

Answer: ZERO

Now ask how my state can list numbers such as number of vaxed/unvaxed who test positive if they never ask the question.

Hmmmm.





You will never find legit numbers...ever.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4965 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

What is the hospitalization rate for kids (say under 16 or 18) over all during all of COVID?


One of the most important factor(s) that is missing in your research pertaining to hospitalizations for kids is 'comorbidities' of infected persons.

Most kids that I have read about who are/were hospitalized or died had some sort of pre-existing condition or comorbidity(s).

As far as your other queries are concerned, we will never really know.

I am sure that these along with other important data points are being kept by the DHS somewhere but the general public will likely never see them.

I believe I caught the CCP flu early on before anyone stateside knew about it. To me it was about a 3 as I thought it was just the regular flu.

BTW, I am just a regular baw so take what I say with a grain of salt.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:49 pm to
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One of the most important factor(s) that is missing in your research pertaining to hospitalizations for kids is 'comorbidities' of infected persons.

This is true for all ages. Did you know that about 50% of Covid hospitalizations the first half of 2021 involved patients that were asymptomatic for Covid or had mild symptoms? That was the period studied by Harvard Med, Tuffts and the VA.

Just one example to illustrate how worthless the Covid scoreboard actually is.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:01 pm to
That makes no sense.

Can you post a link? Thanks
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

That makes no sense.

It's not supposed to make sense. It's supposed to fool. To dupe. And it's been very effective. Think of all the MDs that are clueless to the bullshite they directly participate in.

It's interesting that the report I'm referring to is from the f'n Atlantic. Hardly a right wing media outlet.

And this just scratches the surface. There's more out there, and a ton more that hasn't been studied/scrutinized.

LINK
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number


What’s sad is that article is from September of this year. Anyone with a brain who talked to three people who worked in the hospital already knew this.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

What’s sad is that article is from September of this year. Anyone with a brain who talked to three people who worked in the hospital already knew this.

Exactly. And I don't mean to paint with too broad a brush, but there's a gaggle of self-identifying MDs that participate on this board - and I don't remember seeing a single post from any of them that came across like they were trying to beat the bullshite back, or even had an awareness of their role in it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:58 pm to
They’re all very impressed with themselves. They don’t know shite about stuff they should know if they cared in the slightest.

They all popped their head into a thread about the vaccines ready to mock it. And then they all vanished when they realized that they didn’t know frick all about the subject of the thread.
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 10:59 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:15 pm to
It's also interesting how little discussion (or push back) information like is found in this thread gets from Covidians. I've posted this information on PT 4 or 5 times in the last week or so, and every Covidian that had been involved in the discussion disappeared. You'd think they'd either argue with (what they think is) better information, or they'd welcome Harvard's information that cast Covid as something other than the scary, scary virus they all believe it is.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10298 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 4:47 am to
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Now ask how my state can list numbers such as number of vaxed/unvaxed who test positive if they never ask the question.


Because they have your name and a national database of people who are vaccinated!
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21411 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:35 am to
Anything of political nature, which is just about anything now, you cannot trust the government numbers. Period. Democrats will always lie...down to the individual about anything to promote communism and abortion to directly or indirectly promote communism and abortion. Always.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:39 am to
Deaths actually caused by the Wuhan Flu…
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