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Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:31 pm to Salmon
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Yes, really.
I was simply replaying to a question about what predictions have the models have got right.
You're throwing all this other nonsense on to me because I can admit that the global temperature is rising and defend the science behind it.
Save all your political nonsense for someone else.
Wow. Deflect much. You could have just said, I have no idea. It wasn't that hard of a question. With all of the manipulated data out there, surely one of these well known scientist can tell us what the optimal temperature for the earth is. right?
All I asked is if we have reached it yet? In this cycle.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:34 pm to Lg
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surely one of these well known scientist can tell us what the optimal temperature for the earth is
This question is so funny and unanswerable.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:34 pm to Lg
What, exactly, am I deflecting from? A barrage of unrelated questions to the OP in which I don't care about?
I have no idea what the optimum temperature of the Earth is. No one does.
I have no idea what the optimum temperature of the Earth is. No one does.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:36 pm to Salmon
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such as the air emissions model/program that I'm currently using
Are you working with set factors or constantly changing, interconnected, yet random forces on a global basis, or mechanical systems/devises to control a set volume of emissions?
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Global temperatures are rising
That only goes back to 1988...before that it was global cooling...soo.
that being said, it doesn't answer the question of the claimed predictions of the effects of the "warming" or "cooling"? What were some of the changes in daily life that would be the result of the "warming" or 'Cooling" and which ones have been proved accurate??
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:37 pm to Salmon
It makes no sense to ask about optimums without defining what you're optimizing for.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:38 pm to Salmon
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I have no idea what the optimum temperature of the Earth is. No one does.
Something would thrive or evolve in temperatures too hot or too cold for humans. The earths climate doesnt care about us. I think this goes back to thinking humans are made in gods image and so important that we are incapable of wiping ourselves out, without the rapture.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:39 pm to Dale51
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Are you working with set factors or constantly changing, interconnected, yet random forces on a global basis, or mechanical systems/devises to control a set volume of emissions?
Many different variables. Some are set. Some are assumed.
It's science.
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That only goes back to 1988...before that it was global cooling...soo.
Well that isn't true at all
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that being said, it doesn't answer the question of the claimed predictions of the effects of the "warming" or "cooling"? What were some of the changes in daily life that would be the result of the "warming" or 'Cooling" and which ones have been proved accurate??
The statistical models made these prediction? Interesting.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:41 pm to olddawg26
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This question is so funny and unanswerable.
How so? Is it a fact that the earth warms and cools on it's own? So, was the earth warmer than it is right now before the last ice age? Cooler? If you can't answer, then why is it so troubling for the earth to be warming slightly? Why the fear-mongering?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:43 pm to Salmon
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I have no idea what the optimum temperature of the Earth is. No one does.
I think that's kind of the point. If the present temperature is "wrong", what is the temp suppose to be, and in the hell is it to be controlled? 0.8 degrees over the span of 100 years is not consistent enough???
You can't control the temp of your home with a thermostat to that degree of accuracy.
What do you imagine the world will be like for humans in the next 100 years if nothing changes. Be as descriptive as possible.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:44 pm to Lg
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Why the fear-mongering?
because politics
just like how you jumped in throwing political questions at me, it's impossible to have a discussion about this nowadays with politics getting thrown in
It's frustrating as frick
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:48 pm to Dale51
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0.8 degrees over the span of 100 years is not consistent enough???
historically, it's a pretty sharp increase over 100 years
the cycles you love to reference take place over much larger periods of time
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What do you imagine the world will be like for humans in the next 100 years if nothing changes. Be as descriptive as possible.
I have no idea
I do believe, however, that we will solve our pollution problems within the near future. Industries just need to learn how to convert their emissions into profits, then everyone is happy.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:48 pm to Salmon
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because politics
And whose fault would that be? Letting politics into science? Al Gore ring a bell?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:48 pm to Dale51
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If the present temperature is "wrong"
No one is saying the present temperature is right or wrong.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:49 pm to Dale51
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0.8 degrees over the span of 100 years is not consistent enough???
You can't control the temp of your home with a thermostat to that degree of accuracy.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:49 pm to Lg
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And whose fault would that be? Letting politics into science? Al Gore ring a bell?
All of them that are currently using Climate Change to advance whatever political gain
Al Gore being the most obvious example
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:50 pm to Salmon
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historically, it's a pretty sharp increase over 100 years
What was the change from 1230 to 1330?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:54 pm to texag7
I don't know. Do you?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:55 pm to Salmon
That's what I thought.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 1:56 pm to texag7
Is that some sorta gotcha?
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