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re: Nearly ALL current global warming is fabricated: peer reviewed study finds
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:15 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:15 pm to buckeye_vol
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The margin of error shouldn't have any bearing on the claim itself, just the confidence and significance of the claim.
Yes it does. If one standard is 10th of a degree, you can't compare 100ths of a degree. Same crap..different year.
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:16 pm to Dale51
Lol you can actually buy this stuff on that site.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:19 pm to Dale51
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Why wasn't it warmer if 400ppm is driving heat?
The Late Ordovician era? Mostly due to the sun. It wasn't a true Ice Age.
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What do you guess the CO2ppm should be and what are you basing that on?
I have no idea.
But it is pretty clear a recent spike has occurred.
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Are you actually concerned about the temperature of the planet or the concentration of CO2??
Short term? No. I'll be long dead before anything really happens.
Long term? Absolutely.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:20 pm to Dale51
quote:What you're showing is that there are other factors other than CO2 can can contribute to temperature. This is what I was referring to earlier, when I was talking about controls though.
Why wasn't it warmer if 400ppm is driving heat?
The purpose of most statistical model trying to establish estimates of an independent variables impact on a dependent variable is to control for the other variables. So in a multiple regressions like model, the coefficients refer to the corresponding change of the IV with the DV while all other DVs are held constant.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:25 pm to Dale51
quote:Yes you can; it should be prefaced that it's within a standard error.
Yes it does. If one standard is 10th of a degree, you can't compare 100ths of a degree. Same crap..different year.
It's just like in polling, if Person A polls at 51% and person B polls at 49%, and the margin of error is +/- 5, person A is still polling higher than Person B, and Person A is more likely to have a a true population estimate greater than B.
Granted, not reporting error estimates and/or significance levels is unacceptable, but it doesn't negate the estimator if they are within some margin of error, just the confidence and significance of the estimates and their differences.
So you're right to criticize the lack of inclusion of the error estimates, but it doesn't change the estimates themselves. It will still be considered the hottest year, if the estimate is hottest; it's just not statistically significant from some other years' estimates.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:27 pm to buckeye_vol
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It's just like in polling, if Person A polls at 51% and person B polls at 49%, and the margin of error is +/- 5, person A is still polling higher than Person B, and Person A is more likely to have a a true population estimate greater than B.
Sucked for Hillary!!
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:37 pm to olddawg26
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Increases in CO2 follow increases in temperature not drive the temp up.
Are you familiar with non-anthropogenic Ice Age CO2-Temp flux?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:38 pm to NC_Tigah
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Are you familiar with non-anthropogenic Ice Age CO2-Temp flux?
That is my GO-TO pickup line!
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:39 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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That is my GO-TO pickup line!
Makes her clothes fall off, do you say?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:40 pm to NC_Tigah
Pretty sure that was in regards to CO2 following temperature, not the other way around
which is completely false
which is completely false
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:40 pm to Lg
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Makes her clothes fall off, do you say?
YES!!!
well..THAT and a roofie!
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:42 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Well you should try this one out and compare the effectiveness.
That is my GO-TO pickup line!
Note: Any similar physical features of Burton Guster and BlackHelicopterPilot are pure coincidence.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:43 pm to Errerrerrwere
This again 
It sure has been making the rounds on Facebook... fake news
It sure has been making the rounds on Facebook... fake news
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:44 pm to Salmon
quote:Highly disputed.
Pretty sure that was in regards to CO2 following temperature, not the other way around
which is completely false
Regardless, account for the cyclical CO2 flux demonstrated in your graphic.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:45 pm to olddawg26
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Lol you can actually buy this stuff on that site.
What does one have to do with the other?? This is the problem with people who are easily swayed one way or the other.
Let me see if I understand you correctly. If AGW articles are linked from a site that sells "Protect The Earth merchandise, you would discredit the article based on who linked it? You lack self awareness.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:46 pm to olddawg26
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Lol you can actually buy this stuff on that site.
That is some funny stuff. Love the handbag.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:47 pm to Dale51
No, I just think its funny that one sides go to argument is theyre doing it for money grants while not realizing both sides dont do shite for free. People who can write books about the "hoax" side stand to make much more individually.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:48 pm to TejasHorn
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Love the handbag.
I might get the hat
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:48 pm to Salmon
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I have no idea.
But it is pretty clear a recent spike has occurred.
So what?
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Short term? No. I'll be long dead before anything really happens.
Long term? Absolutely.
What are you afraid of? Paint a picture of what your fears show you.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 3:52 pm to buckeye_vol
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What you're showing is that there are other factors other than CO2 can can contribute to temperature.
What are some of these other factors and what you may believe to be the order of importance of each in general terms?
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