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NBC News: We feel like crying because Trump is already the President
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:14 pm
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President-elect Donald Trump's running commentary on sensitive foreign policy issues before taking office is ruffling feathers, with critics complaining he's violating a longstanding tradition of deference to the incumbent White House during transitions
Incoming leaders have typically abided by a "one president at a time" rule in order to avoid sending mixed messages and to give themselves time to consult intelligence and confer with their incoming cabinet and inherited civil service.
"It's confusing," Stephen Hess, a policy analyst at Brookings who has worked under presidents from both parties, said. "The president-elect doesn't really have the power to do these things and, while suggesting them at this time, it may look very different to him after January 20."
Congressman Jared Huffman (D-CA) told NBC News he was so alarmed by Trump's behavior that he introduced the "One President at a Time Act" earlier this month, which would clarify that the Logan Act, which prohibits private citizens from conducting foreign policy, also applies to incoming presidents.
"In the past, president-elects have shown good judgement and restraint in understanding that our duly elected officials need to conduct foreign policy while they're in office," Huffman said. "We've never had a president-elect with such impulse control problems."
"Only the President has the authority to conduct foreign policy on behalf of the United States, and there needs to be absolute clarity about his positions and the policies of the US," Tommy Vietor, who served as Obama's national security spokesman, said in an e-mail. "If there's ambiguity, an adversary can use it to gain leverage on us and it creates general confusion and uncertainty among our allies."
President-elect Donald Trump's running commentary on sensitive foreign policy issues before taking office is ruffling feathers, with critics complaining he's violating a longstanding tradition of deference to the incumbent White House during transitions
Incoming leaders have typically abided by a "one president at a time" rule in order to avoid sending mixed messages and to give themselves time to consult intelligence and confer with their incoming cabinet and inherited civil service.
"It's confusing," Stephen Hess, a policy analyst at Brookings who has worked under presidents from both parties, said. "The president-elect doesn't really have the power to do these things and, while suggesting them at this time, it may look very different to him after January 20."
Congressman Jared Huffman (D-CA) told NBC News he was so alarmed by Trump's behavior that he introduced the "One President at a Time Act" earlier this month, which would clarify that the Logan Act, which prohibits private citizens from conducting foreign policy, also applies to incoming presidents.
"In the past, president-elects have shown good judgement and restraint in understanding that our duly elected officials need to conduct foreign policy while they're in office," Huffman said. "We've never had a president-elect with such impulse control problems."
"Only the President has the authority to conduct foreign policy on behalf of the United States, and there needs to be absolute clarity about his positions and the policies of the US," Tommy Vietor, who served as Obama's national security spokesman, said in an e-mail. "If there's ambiguity, an adversary can use it to gain leverage on us and it creates general confusion and uncertainty among our allies."
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:16 pm to joshnorris14
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"It's confusing,"
No, it's really not. Trump is your new president. End of story. Stop being confused.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:17 pm to nateslu1
quote:No. He will be eventually, but right now he is not, regardless of how you feel about it.
Trump is your new president
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:17 pm to joshnorris14
Remind the Libtards that there is a new sheriff in town.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:18 pm to joshnorris14
Every last term president becomes lame duck the minute the 270 hits on election night. What a drama queen.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:22 pm to joshnorris14
two comments to the OP:
1) your title to this post is misleading (unless I missed part where NBC is "crying"
2) as much as I disagree with Mr. Obama, probably on 28 out of every 30 issues, there is only one POTUS at a time, and too much commentary from a president-elect can lead to confusion.
I suppose, however, it is up to debate as to whether Trump is going too far in this.
1) your title to this post is misleading (unless I missed part where NBC is "crying"
2) as much as I disagree with Mr. Obama, probably on 28 out of every 30 issues, there is only one POTUS at a time, and too much commentary from a president-elect can lead to confusion.
I suppose, however, it is up to debate as to whether Trump is going too far in this.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:24 pm to JPinLondon
I member Barry with his spiffy podium as Prez elect. It was such a joke.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:26 pm to joshnorris14
No one even considers Obama as president anymore. Trump has sucked up all the air and the world already considers him the president.
Obama is weak. This is shown by the world listening to trump on foreign policy not Obama.
Obama is weak. This is shown by the world listening to trump on foreign policy not Obama.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:29 pm to joshnorris14
I don't see the problem. We haven't had a President for eight years. Trump is just making up for missed time by starting a little early.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:31 pm to EastNastySwag
Exactly what I was going to say, ENS.
frick the Lib Trash pole smokers at NBC. The piece of shite currently squatting in the White House showed much less respect for his predecessor than Trump has to him.
And I guess the snowflakes at NBC have forgotten about the "Why can't Bush leave right now!' stories that ran after the 2008 election.
frick NBC and frick Obama.
frick the Lib Trash pole smokers at NBC. The piece of shite currently squatting in the White House showed much less respect for his predecessor than Trump has to him.
And I guess the snowflakes at NBC have forgotten about the "Why can't Bush leave right now!' stories that ran after the 2008 election.
frick NBC and frick Obama.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:32 pm to jturn17
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Trump is your new president
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No. He will be eventually, but right now he is not, regardless of how you feel about it.
Oduma is our current president. Trump is our new president.
Stop crying about it.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:44 pm to joshnorris14
Lincoln's refusal to talk policy and assure the American people (particularly the South) of his intentions prior to inauguration was one of the catalysts for the Civil War.
We have a president-elect that is going out of his way to affect change in a good way before he steps foot in the White House. Sounds like a good fricking plan to me.
We have a president-elect that is going out of his way to affect change in a good way before he steps foot in the White House. Sounds like a good fricking plan to me.
Posted on 12/22/16 at 10:45 pm to joshnorris14
Can't wait for the NBC report that questions Obama for sticking around in DC after his presidency is over even though...
quote:
he's violating a longstanding tradition of deference to the residing president during transitions
Posted on 12/23/16 at 12:16 am to joshnorris14
Tommy is actually a really good guy. This is why I dont like to talk politics with my friends or new acquaintances because we probably wouldn't be friends.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 1:38 am to joshnorris14
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President-elect Donald Trump's running commentary on sensitive foreign policy issues before taking office is ruffling feathers, with critics complaining he's violating a longstanding tradition of deference to the incumbent White House during transitions
Incoming leaders have typically abided by a "one president at a time" rule in order to avoid sending mixed messages and to give themselves time to consult intelligence and confer with their incoming cabinet and inherited civil service.
That tradition honestly should be the other way around.
The current President becomes an irrelevant lame duck the moment someone who's not him hits 270 total electoral votes on election night.
The rest of the world is going to be deal with Trump for the next 4-8 years until someone else gets 270 and he's currently listed as the number 2 most powerful person in the world according to Forbes and I have no problem with him acting like it.
Obama is at 50 and falling each day.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:04 am to joshnorris14
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tweeted that the US should refuse to accept an underwater drone seized and returned by China
Donald may want to start being more receptive to intelligence briefings. If for nothing else, at least to up his tweet game.
That Drone Skirmish With China? It Was Over Before Donald Trump's First Mean Tweet.
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WASHINGTON — Donald Trump launched his Twitter campaign against China’s seizure of a U.S. Navy research submersible last week to great fanfare — and, as it turns out, hours after the crisis had already been defused.
It’s unclear whether the president-elect or his aides knew that fact — it would have been included in the intelligence briefing available to him each morning — before he sent out his misspelled missive of outrage at 7:30 a.m. Saturday.
“China steals United States Navy research drone in international waters — rips it out of water and takes it to China in unpresidented act,” Trump wrote. He deleted that version and replaced it with “unprecedented” spelled correctly at 8:57 a.m.
But even his first version came four hours after U.S. Ambassador to China Max Baucus was informed that the Chinese navy had agreed to return the “underwater unmanned vehicle.”
That information would have been known to Trump had he taken the “Presidential Daily Brief” prior to posting his first tweet. Whether he did that Saturday, or whether he or his staff even bothered to check with the State Department or the Pentagon about the status of the matter before weighing in, is unknown. Officials in Trump’s transition office did not respond to queries from The Huffington Post.
National Embarrassment.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 2:24 am
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:38 am to inadaze
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National Embarrassment.
Obama? I agree.
There's a reason the Chinese felt froggy enough to even pull that shite with the submarine. They knew Obama's response would be limp-waisted at best.
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