re: Navy officer applies to become the first ever woman to join the elite SEALs

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You're still pretending that selection is about bulk intake.

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Policy is absolutely about likelihood of success.

Otherwise, they wouldn't waste time with a selection standard. I mean, you do realize that, right?

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You're the expert, though.

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Well. I mean. Apparently I understand why one sets a minimum standard better than you do since you don't think success rate is the reason they set it.

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I bet they'd love to watch Mike Tyson in his prime box a woman.

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Don't need Tyson.

The best woman boxer in the world would lose to the top 100,000 men available who had no boxing training. Just basic stud athlete types. And, I'm probably being kind there.

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Or Anderson Silva beat the shite out of Rhonda Rousey.

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Rousey would get her arse kicked by at least 100,000 men and that's if we only limited it to men that were within 20 pounds of her.

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Or LeBron James play one game in the WNBA

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Pat Summit once said that if her NCAA champion females played the Tennessee boys state champs, the girls would get creamed.

It's just not close.

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No. The old, "it's 2017" argument.

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Oh does the year make a woman stronger, faster? More mentally strong?

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Depends on the man and the woman.

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No it doesn't not when you are talking in the aggregate, which is what we're discussing here.

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You guys sure are loose with how you use the word "prove."

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Yes, because prove is the correct word here. When you put what you want above what's best for a team you have disqualified yourself from being on that team. Whether you are male or female. In fact in the military sometimes you are in a position where you must choose whether to sacrifice yourself to save said team. A person who forces their way onto a team that is better off without them isn't likely to choose to make that sacrifice.

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Those studies don't prove anything really, at least not on this particular topic.

Go back to the Marine Corps study.

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Oh, the old "my study is more valid than yours" argument. Well, sorry sweetheart, but as special as the Marines are, they aren't same as the special forces community which relies on unit cohesion more than any other area of the military.

And you are ignoring some biology here. Special operators are alpha males, alpha males who are in superb physical condition, now drop a physically attractive female in their midst and watch unit cohesion fall apart. And before you poopoo that with "oh they are professionals, they wouldn't get romantically involved" let me just say bullshite. I was an MP then a CID investigator and I can't tell you how many times I saw sexual relationships destroy a unit.

Now you place that woman in a team full of men who largely operate on their own with little supervision and soon you have real trouble.

Well that's stating the obvious

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Would you support a man trying out for an WNBA team? WHy or why not?

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Well my argument is that they don't belong in the military in any capacity

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I forgot about this...

So you don't think women should be in the military for any rate?

I thought your view was no combatant roles for women,. no?

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You're still stuck on minimum physical standards. This tells me what I need to know about your familiarity with it.

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Everyone who has served knows about minimum physical requirements. It's drilled into your head. "you must be able to......." to stay in the military.

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You're still stuck on minimum physical standards. This tells me what I need to know about your familiarity with it.

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and standards go up as the training progresses

If females struggle with the basic standards they are fricked towards the end.

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I'd be more willing to support an entire female only seals division before supporting a mix.

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This is what Norway did. An all female special forces unit.