re: Natural Immunity

Biden should go frick himself, but he can't get it up.

No blue pill is going to help that ice cream slurping moron.

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Natural immunity as far as how long that can last still varies from person to person.

On an equitable platform, your misinformation would be censored.

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he he heh

Immunity from the 1918 flu epidemic is still prevalent among just about all tested survivors 90+ years later

edited to add text of 2008 article about this (NOTE THE LAST PARAGRAPH!!!!!):

<<<<<"Aug 19, 2008 (CIDRAP News) ? A study of the blood of older people who survived the 1918 influenza pandemic reveals that antibodies to the strain have lasted a lifetime and can perhaps be engineered to protect future generations against similar strains.

The findings appeared online Aug 17 in Nature. Study collaborators hail from several institutions: Vanderbilt University, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey (UMDNJ), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and Scripps Research Institute.

Inspiration for the study came from an unlikely source, an episode of an old medical television show that portrayed a town protecting itself from the 1918 virus outbreak by using blood from an elderly survivor, the Associated Press (AP) reported yesterday. The storyline prompted Eric Altschuler, MD, a professor of physical medicine and rehabilitation at UMDND to ask the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for a grant to test people over age 90 for the 1918 flu antibodies, according to the AP report. The NIH funded much of the study and enlisted the expertise of other experts.

The group collected blood samples from 32 pandemic survivors aged 91 to 101. The multipronged study had four components, to:

Determine if the survivors still had antibodies to the virus
See if the B cells?the ones that produce the antibodies?could be cultured and produce antibodies to a 1918 virus protein
Attempt fusing cells having the highest levels of activity with myeloma cells to create a hybrid cell line that secretes monoclonal antibodies
Evaluate if the antibodies could protect mice infected with the 1918 influenza virus
The people recruited for the study were 2 to 12 years old in 1918 and many recalled sick family members in their households, which suggests they were directly exposed to the virus, the authors report. The group found that 100% of the subjects had serum-neutralizing activity against the 1918 virus and 94% showed serologic reactivity to the 1918 hemagglutinin.

The investigators generated B lymphoblastic cell lines from the peripheral blood mononuclear cells of eight subjects. Transformed cells from the blood of 7 of the 8 donors yielded secreting antibodies that bound the 1918 hemagglutinin.

Author James E. Crowe, Jr, MD, professor of pediatrics and director of the Vanderbilt Program in Vaccine Sciences, said in a press release from Vanderbilt that the researchers were surprised by the findings.

"The B cells have been waiting for at least 60 years?if not 90 years?for that flu to come around again," he said. "That's amazing, because it's the longest memory anyone's ever demonstrated."

From the B cells of three donors, the research group generated five monoclonal antibodies that not only strongly neutralized the 1918 virus, but also cross-reacted with proteins related to the 1930 swine flu virus. However, the antibodies did not react against more contemporary influenza strains.

In the final arm of the study, the researchers infected mice with the reconstructed 1918 virus and the next day tested the five monoclonal antibodies at various doses to see if the therapy protected the animals. The mice receiving the lowest dose of the 1918 monoclonal antibody died, as did the ones receiving the control antibody. All given the highest antibody doses survived.

Dr Tshidi Tsibane, a study author and postdoctoral fellow in Mount Sinai School of Medicine's microbiology department, said in a press release from Mount Sinai that though there is no need for a new treatment for 1918 influenza virus infections, the results are still useful.

"These findings could serve as potential therapy for another 1918-like virus," said Dr Tsibane in the statement.

The authors point out that it is difficult to be certain that the monoclonal antibodies they isolated were first stimulated during the 1918 influenza pandemic. However, they write that the subjects' clinical histories and the high affinity of the monoclonal antibodies for the 1918 strain "strongly suggest that recent exposures do not account for this immunity." They add that exposure to similar viruses circulating during first part of the 20th century probably bolstered the subjects' B cell function.

Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said recent studies have projected that immunity lasts several decades; the current study provides proof, the AP reported. "This is the mother of all immunological memory here," he told the AP."

Natural immunity does not fit the agenda.

You can bet your arse if natural immunity was not positive for people who have had Covid then the administration would be talking about it nonstop

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Don't worry, no one is accusing you of being superior to anything or anyone.

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oooo burn

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We are the superior race of humanity with bone marrow secreting/pumping out those T cells, B cells, and ready to knock any hint of Covids dick in the dirt.

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My son got Covid in Aug 2020. Lost his sense of smell for a few days, which is why he thought to get tested. Didn't struggle with the virus whatsoever. He's a college basketball player, and is dating a girl that plays on the women's team. The women's coach, fully vaccinated, comes down with symptomatic Covid. His whole team gets quarantined and tested, and four of the players are positive, including my son's gf. As per school and NCAA rules, she goes into double-secret quarantine.

Here's where it gets funny. My son isn't vaccinated, has no need for it - understands what natural immunity is. His coach is on him about this because vaccinated players are treated differently where contact tracing, etc., are concerned. The rules also treat recent infections differently - if he had gotten the virus inside a 90 day window, then the requirements for contact tracing/quarantining when a teammate or coach is exposed or gets the virus are far less onerous. He and I talk about this and agreed he should try to get the virus again. He's already in quarantine because of gf and contact tracing the school does, so they decide to hole up together for three solid days and try to get my sone re-infected. He then waits five days and gets tested yesterday. He called this morning - he's negative.

With natural immunity from a barely symptomatic (loss of smell a few days) infection more than a year ago, he couldn't get re-infected even when he tried to.

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With natural immunity from a barely symptomatic (loss of smell a few days) infection more than a year ago, he couldn't get re-infected even when he tried to.

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a significant outcome for him and all who already had the so very survivable virus.

If they do not incorporate this superior condition in their effort they are nothing more than all out straight nazis and communist totalitarians...

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It’s out there,

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Post the links.

You shouldn't bother with the vaccine if you've recovered

Some IDIOT in the medical department of the company I work for was asked about natural antibodies and stated that the vaccine was superior to natural antibodies. My wife who has been a nurse for decades told me there are some doctors out there that say getting the jab while you already have natural antibodies increases the risk of having adverse reactions from the so called vaccine.