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re: Nadlers explanation on why Muller won’t testify.

Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:23 pm to
Dudes a pos. They’ll subpoena anyone / hold anyone in contempt if it furthers their agenda. If not, it’s all nothing to see here folks.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:30 pm to
"When did you know there was no collusion?" He best not lie. "Then why did you continue after that point?" He would get his lungs ripped out.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 10:31 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:35 pm to
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"When did you know there was no collusion?" He best not lie. "Then why did you continue after that point?" He would get his lungs ripped out.

Hate to be the Negative Davy, but Id foresee him saying "found evidence of potential obstruction...had to run it down". It does sort of explain the "Volume II" deal. Came after Vol I Collusion closed.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:53 pm to
Sorry, but that's weak. Obstruction of WHAT? There was no crime. He went for ages after trying to create crimes.

There was no crime to start with. He probably knew it very early on, if he didn't know it right off the bat.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48209 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:57 pm to
There was no obstruction. None of the issues he looked into meet the elements. Additionally, the AG has sole discretion since Mueller declined to prosecute. AG said no obstruction. Anyone arguing otherwise is arguing for political gain. There will be no impeachment. There will be no prosecution. It’s all a political game. The shoe is on the other foot now with declass. Time for the dems to play some defense.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:59 pm to
I agree it's weak (to put it mildly), but I bet that's exactly how he's prepared to justify all the investigation time post-no collusion finding. As disingenuous as it is.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:02 pm to
Sorry but you don’t run with it to the tune of $30 million. They spied on Trumps campaign. They knew before the investigation started that it was bullshite.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Why won't Lindsey Graham subpoena Mueller to testify before Senate Judiciary?
Because Graham is a McCain-RINO thru and thru.

Graham does a convincing little MAGA dance for the cameras every so often - but he's a stone-cold RINO.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29981 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:11 pm to
Man Im with you. All Im saying is the man isnt stupid. He knows that question is coming, the "when did you know no collusion and why keep going". He's going to say things were found during collusion investigation (Vol I) that justified (in their mind) subsequent investigation of potential obstruction. Believe me, Im no fan of it.

ETA...."in their mind" is wrong. My error. Like you said, they knew it was bullshite. But an excuse to proceed with the b.s. nonetheless.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:18 pm to
He will try to run with it and get torn to pieces. He will get torn to pieces about sending infantry divisions to arrest Paul Manafort and Roger Stone. All the perjury traps he set...that's not his job.

He's scared is what he is.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54206 posts
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:37 pm to
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Nadler is scared the truth will come out and nothing more.


Check this out from a NY Post article from April 6 -

quote:

New York Rep. Jerry Nadler, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said Monday that special counsel Robert Mueller should testify in front of his panel early next month.

Nadler’s move followed a call from Georgia GOP Rep. Doug Collins, the ranking Republican on the committee, urging Nadler to have the special counsel testify.

“Today, Ranking Member Collins called for Special Counsel Mueller to appear before @HouseJudiciary. I fully agree. Special Counsel Mueller should come before the Committee to answer questions in public about his 22 month investigation into President Trump and his associates,” Nadler said in a tweet.


Talk about doing a 180.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:40 pm to
I hope he they do rip his lungs out. Metaphorically speaking of course...dont want one of those FBI visits. Anyhoo, my belief is tjis: the report Mueller released was the last minute backup version that used the excuse of the nonbinding DOJ inner office memo to not conclude one way or another. That was to be used in the event of actual zero finding of a prosecutable case. This was their only way to avoid having to conclude no crimes which they desperately didnt want to do.

The original, preferred, planned version was going to be describing the charges against Trump. Couldnt use it bc to their surprise not a single winnable case was found. Dirty, dirty business.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 12:14 am to
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if Republicans on the committee start asking him questions about the beginning of the -- about this stuff, the beginning of the investigation,”


Its not like he initiated it
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20108 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 12:40 am to
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Its not like he initiated it


Ludicrous statement.

He was the designated prosecutor. He was conducting an investigation. You don’t think it’s relevant for Mueller to investigate and report where, when, why and how the “surveillance” (spying) started?

As Dan Bongino would say, “What was ‘paragraph one’ of the investigation?”
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20108 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 12:48 am to
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quote: “He envisions himself correctly as a man of great rectitude and apolitical and he doesn't want to participate in anything that he might regard as a political spectacle, especially if Republicans on the committee start asking him questions about the beginning of the -- about this stuff, the beginning of the investigation,” Nadler said. . LINK This just proves it was a witch-hunt.


How is it possible that the ranking Democrat and Chairman of the House investigating Committee can characterize Mueller as being so virtuous for NOT testifying, but at the very same time, calling Barr a treasonous obstructionist and literally holding him in contempt of Congress for not wanting to testify A SECOND TIME about a report MUELLER prepared?

How deep and wide and strong is the Trump Derangement Syndrome that the MSM, the Dem Party Leaders, and the Dem voters can’t see this HUGE HYPOCRISY and total exposure of their mendacity?
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
7852 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:44 am to
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He doesn’t want to speak under oath.


You think this villainy of wretched lying liberal scum and thieves give a flying frick about telling the truth or oaths.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34883 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 7:45 am to
Muh transparency.

Count yourself blessed that you don't have to go out in front of the half of Americans that know what went down per the "insurance policy"...and blatantly lie like a rug, and act like you believe it. No wonder the guy is passing out; and with Declass...it'll get worse for the liars by the day.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 9:39 am to
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He was the designated prosecutor. He was conducting an investigation. You don’t think it’s relevant for Mueller to investigate and report where, when, why and how the “surveillance” (spying) started?

As Dan Bongino would say, “What was ‘paragraph one’ of the investigation?”


It's kind of in the introduction to the first part of the report



Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35379 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:26 am to
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Wouldn’t the origins of the investigation be fair game? I mean, the reasons why it all started would seem relevant.

He wouldn't be a great witness to it. He started a year after it began. All he knows is what he was told and the documents he was given. And he was restricted to a few people and the Russian interference. Any other misconduct falls under Barr.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46002 posts
Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:31 am to
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Nadler is scared the truth will come out and nothing more.


Did you see Swallowswell on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace? Wallace hit him with the Trump declassifying everything and Swallowswell started spinning like a dime store top. Swallowswell is all for transparency if it destroys Trump but is insistent that no information be released or unredacted that could lead to indictments against Swampers in good standing.
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